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monkers
Squire
It changes the day before marriage in humans. Up until then men are 'stags' and women are 'hens', because humans are made transgenic during puberty which is undone by God at the end of the wedding ceremony unlike mouses that are made to be that exclusively by 'sleepy Joe'. Surely you know this basic stuff?
icowden
Squire
It is one of the odder decisions that Musk has made IMHO. He was upfront about wanting Tesla's to be autonomous. By limiting a Tesla's vision to that of a human being, it greatly limits the ability of the car to know what is going on. Also interesting that in the rain and fog test, the Tesla presumably must know that vision is reduced but doesn't even slow down for conditions.
I'd also love to see a repeat test with full FSD to see if the decision making by the car is different.
It's interesting as my brother has recently purchased himself an EV Mini and being new it comes with all the software features enabled on a <n> months free then pay to subscribe basis. He was saying he did a long motorway trin in rain with spray from other vehicles and the car system would not engage due to the limited visibility ie it recognised the conditions and recognised it would not help so notified the driver it wasn't going to provide "assistance".
Ian
HMS_Dave
Regular
Its shït Andy. Just admit it.
monkers
Squire
No such problems for Mercedes with their LiDAR systems.
https://group.mercedes-benz.com/innovation/case/autonomous/drive-pilot-2.html
Werid thing a bit like the story "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" ... when somebody is continually posting complete false rubbish and everybody ends-up wasting their time verifying it's rubbish people get to the point where "The Boy Who Cried ..." posts are all treated as untrue rubbish becuase there is a long track record and people have other things in their lives that continually verifying and posting "not true because <link>, <link>".
Loss of credibility and assumption "It' all rubbish".
Ian
Loss of credibility and assumption "It' all rubbish".
Ian
icowden
Squire
And yet it didn't in that video. it didn't detect poor vision ahead at all when on autopilot.
Ian H
Legendary Member
Human eyes only provide basic, somewhat patchy, input. The brain fills in the gaps, interprets the input and tries to work out what it's seeing. Computers are notoriously difficult to program to interpret purely visual images, especially complex moving ones.
CXRAndy
Veteran
Yes it's far from perfect. I don't use it in bad weather, because it disengages far too many times.
I use it for motorways on good clear days, dual carriageways, that's where it's works very well-not perfect but good enough to give long periods of additional driver backup. It works at night as long the weather is clear
I can't take my hands off the steering wheel, it senses my slight resistance to corrective steering
briantrumpet
Active Member
Yep - one of the clever bits of our visual processing is the way it deletes 'clutter' so you perceive salient information, such as dangers without the brain being overwhelmed by information. Unfortunately that's also the same process that sometimes deletes from one's perception pesky cyclists approaching junctions, hence the many SMIDSY collisions.
Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
It would answer a lot of questions to discover that in parallel with the rise to ubiquity of Artificial Intelligence, Artificial Stupidity had also been unleashed.
Anyone else heard the theory that the reason why Teslas appear to be quite so prone to spontaneously bursting into flame & exploding is that the poor things are becoming self-aware?
