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[bobzmyunkle]

The people described created the society we live in today and raised the current generation.

Ah interesting. I occasionally wonder how things might have turned out it I'd had a less feral upbringing. Now I know - no Thatcherism, no Brexit and all generally rosy in the world.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

When it comes to the rise in obesity and poor dietary health we cannot simply blame the food industry in isolation.

Can I agree with @Fab Foodie whilst suggesting that perhaps he doth protest too much.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

When it comes to the rise in obesity and poor dietary health we cannot simply blame the food industry in isolation.

Can I agree with @Fab Foodie whilst suggesting that perhaps he doth protest too much.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

When it comes to the rise in obesity and poor dietary health we cannot simply blame the food industry in isolation.

Can I agree with @Fab Foodie whilst suggesting that perhaps he doth protest too much.

 

[AndyRM]

I think it might be you that's protesting too much @bobzmyunkle.

 

[winjim]

Ah interesting. I occasionally wonder how things might have turned out it I'd had a less feral upbringing. Now I know - no Thatcherism, no Brexit and all generally rosy in the world.

My kids can't play in the street, because the street is full of cars, put there by the people who used to play in the street.

And congratulating yourself for inventing computers and then complaining that children spend too much time on computers is a hell of a way to think.

 

[BoldonLad]

The people described created the society we live in today and raised the current generation.

Depends what you mean by "the current generation".

As per @Fab Foodie, above, the 1970's was a period of change in lifestyles, both work and "play". It was also when people like myself entered the "parent game" (born 1947, first child 1972). The current generation, in my view, are my grandchildren (born 2000's).

 

[matticus]

The documentary I linked to had people from the industry, like yourself, with decades of experience, including scientists who ran their programmes. Did you watch it?

Yes. @Fab Foodie you should watch it - then tell me how the instances of scandalous behaviour there aren't in fact true.

 

[winjim]

Depends what you mean by "the current generation".

As per @Fab Foodie, above, the 1970's was a period of change in lifestyles, both work and "play". It was also when people like myself entered the "parent game" (born 1947, first child 1972). The current generation, in my view, are my grandchildren (born 2000's).

My apologies, I hadn't realised that 'the 70's' didn't include the year 1972.

 

[winjim]

If anyone's interested in how nostalgia is bullshit, Paul Fairie is a good follow. Here's how he reminds us that life really was better 50 years ago.

https://bsky.app/profile/paulisci.bsky.social

 

[bobzmyunkle]

So things weren't better 50 years ago but they're shoot now, possibly because I parked my car in your street and invented computers.
Glad we sorted that out.

 

[winjim]

So things weren't better 50 years ago but they're shoot now, possibly because I parked my car in your street and invented computers.
Glad we sorted that out.

No a lot of things are a shoot ton better although many things are worse. What annoys me is people claiming responsibility for the former while avoiding culpability for the latter, and blaming their own children and expecting them to fix things.

And I don't think you did invent computers. I expect that like the vast majority of people you were just trying to survive and live your best life in the circumstances which were available to you at the time.

 

[Psamathe]

The documentary I linked to had people from the industry, like yourself, with decades of experience, including scientists who ran their programmes. Did you watch it?

I watched it and it was fascinating and made a lot of sense. But one aspect I do question but purely on personal anecdotal experience, when I lived in France, occasional visits back to UK and I was always shocked by the number of obese and obviously very overweight people there were in the UK, something that just wasn't the case in France. Yet the food manufacturers would have been pushing their same products into both markets.

I'd have expected the rise in obesity to have been comparable across most European countries and happen around the same time and I'm not sure it did - though I'd be interested to see real data if anybody has any (but don't have time right now to search it out - sorry).

Ian

 

[winjim]

I'm afraid I don't have a source for the data but it was presented as part of the nutrition module of a clinical biochemistry MSc a few years ago.

 

[Beebo]

I'm afraid I don't have a source for the data but it was presented as part of the nutrition module of a clinical biochemistry MSc a few years ago.

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Greece is an outlier.
Mediterranean diet and all that.