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icowden

Shaman
You are drinking the wrong red wine
The problem with red wine is it isn't just the wine. I can find a great wine sometimes, in a restaurant. One that I could just drink all night, and has a lovely taste. Absolutely joyous. I make a note of it. Buy a bottle for home and it doesn't taste the same. Either the temperature is wrong, or it hasn't been left to breathe enough, or left too long etc.
 

BoldonLad

Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
Location
South Tyneside
The problem with red wine is it isn't just the wine. I can find a great wine sometimes, in a restaurant. One that I could just drink all night, and has a lovely taste. Absolutely joyous. I make a note of it. Buy a bottle for home and it doesn't taste the same. Either the temperature is wrong, or it hasn't been left to breathe enough, or left too long etc.

Perhaps you need a new butler? 😂
 

Beebo

Guru
Taste buds change with age. Comments?

Yes. But sprouts have also changed over the last 30 years.
In the 90s farmers started to breed sweeter and larger sprouts.
The days of the small bitter sprouts are mostly gone now.
But people probably remember those horrible sprouts when they were young.
 

midlandsgrimpeur

Well-Known Member
The problem with red wine is it isn't just the wine. I can find a great wine sometimes, in a restaurant. One that I could just drink all night, and has a lovely taste. Absolutely joyous. I make a note of it. Buy a bottle for home and it doesn't taste the same. Either the temperature is wrong, or it hasn't been left to breathe enough, or left too long etc.

I now I am going to start sounding rather pretentious (I welcome any mocking), but this is right, wine does change under various conditions as you say. It is a living thing that reacts to all manner of environmental changes. I think, as with your example, there is also the psychological effect of having a nice bottle of wine with good company and good food in a nice restaurant, everything looks and tastes better! You buy the same bottle at home where everything is different and suddenly the wine doesn't seem so good.

Temperature is a big thing, red generally gets served far too warm and white far too cold. Always exceptions but most whites seem to best around 10-12 degrees (bearing in mind most people will serve them fridge cold at about 4-5 degrees) and most reds around 16-18 degrees. Giving reds some air definitely helps most of the time (unless it is very old in which case it won't make any difference), but I find people who say they left it for 10 hours and it suddenly became amazing slightly fanciful. I think if it hasn't improved after an hour or two then in general it's not going to.
 

First Aspect

Veteran
Yes. But sprouts have also changed over the last 30 years.
In the 90s farmers started to breed sweeter and larger sprouts.
The days of the small bitter sprouts are mostly gone now.
But people probably remember those horrible sprouts when they were young.

Is there any food or drink you don't like?
 

Pblakeney

Veteran
Giving reds some air definitely helps most of the time (unless it is very old in which case it won't make any difference), but I find people who say they left it for 10 hours and it suddenly became amazing slightly fanciful. I think if it hasn't improved after an hour or two then in general it's not going to.
Decanting gets air into the wine and speeds up the process dramatically.
 
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briantrumpet

briantrumpet

Squire
Re Tom Stoppard's death, this is quite the letter to The Times.

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midlandsgrimpeur

Well-Known Member
Decanting gets air into the wine and speeds up the process dramatically.

It definitely does, but I think an hour or two is fine. I am not convinced by people that claim decanting and leaving it for a 10 or 12 hours dramatically improves it.
 

midlandsgrimpeur

Well-Known Member
Re Tom Stoppard's death, this is quite the letter to The Times.

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From the sublime to the ridiculous. I read a story of when the 'Comedy Theatre' was considering changing to the 'Harold Pinter' theatre, which it subsequently did. Pinter wrote to various people asking them to give their support to the name change, Stoppard replied to him asking, if instead, he had considered changing his name to 'Harold Comedy'? 😂
 

First Aspect

Veteran
I hate fresh and cooked tomatoes. Never liked them.
Don’t like goats cheese.
Don’t like liver / kidney.

I do try them occasionally, but I can’t get on with them.

You just haven't tried the right tomatoes. If they are hand grown and fertilizer using horseshit they are delicious because I find them so.
 

Stevo 666

Veteran
Bit tricky when the old forum is gone and a bit tricky to quote you not criticising as, um, you weren't criticising. Can you provide quotes of you criticising the Tories on their lax approach to visa allocation? That should be far easier.

How about on this forum then - we've been here for a while now. You're trying to make a point so you back it up.
 
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