BRFR Cake Stop 'breaking news' miscellany

[Ian H]

Working class means nothing unless it’s got hard-working in front of it and used in a political speech.

I worked for 45 years but can’t claim those years were all hard-working. My aim was to do enough and no more.

I sympathise empathise. I did spend some time painting pretty pictures and living on a rather modest income. Nowadays I just grimace when people tell me folk should be 'passionate' about whatever crap job they're applying for.

 

[briantrumpet]

Impressive. Not that I'd mind extra incentive going towards using less fossil fuels, but still at the moment the economy and country would grind to a halt if we did run out, as there's some way to go on renewables being able to run everything...

 

[briantrumpet]

I still can't work out what happened to Tony Blair. His current stance makes even his Iraq War - Tony Bliar era look distinctly moderate. People like Major and Brown seem to have stayed pretty much as they were, so how has Blair got radicalised into this caricature? Did Iraq break him, like Brexit broke the Tory Party and all those who sailed in her?

 

[Pblakeney]

I still can't work out what happened to Tony Blair. His current stance makes even his Iraq War - Tony Bliar era look distinctly moderate. People like Major and Brown seem to have stayed pretty much as they were, so how has Blair got radicalised into this caricature? Did Iraq break him, like Brexit broke the Tory Party and all those who sailed in her?

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Maybe, just maybe, this is who he always was.
I always saw him as a self centred, out for his own gain, shyster. He'd fit right in with MAGA.

 

[Pblakeney]

How much evidence is required to prove that this country is broken?

"The criminal investigation into the Post Office Horizon IT scandal could be delayed by five years unless it receives millions of pounds in extra funding, police chiefs have warned."

The country is either skint, or corrupt with everything being swept under the carpet.

 

[briantrumpet]

Maybe, just maybe, this is who he always was.
I always saw him as a self centred, out for his own gain, shyster. He'd fit right in with MAGA.

I don't suppose that $150mn from Trump-supporting Larry Ellison and being on Trump's 'Board of Peace' with Kushner have affected his views in any way at all.

 

[Pross]

I still can't work out what happened to Tony Blair. His current stance makes even his Iraq War - Tony Bliar era look distinctly moderate. People like Major and Brown seem to have stayed pretty much as they were, so how has Blair got radicalised into this caricature? Did Iraq break him, like Brexit broke the Tory Party and all those who sailed in her?

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His comment was something along the lines of they are prioritising clean energy over cheap energy as if that's a bad thing. In time, clean energy should also become cheap energy that isn't at the mercy of whatever happens in the Middle East or Russia which will also possibly make those areas more peaceful as there is less to fight over.

 

[briantrumpet]

His comment was something along the lines of they are prioritising clean energy over cheap energy as if that's a bad thing. In time, clean energy should also become cheap energy that isn't at the mercy of whatever happens in the Middle East or Russia which will also possibly make those areas more peaceful as there is less to fight over.

The more critiques I read, the more it's clear that Blair is now just a Trumpist with a functioning brain. It's a pity that he uses that brain to try to argue for such a plainly short-term and destructive agenda, both in human and ecological terms. He ought to be ignored now.

 

[Psamathe]

His comment was something along the lines of they are prioritising clean energy over cheap energy as if that's a bad thing. In time, clean energy should also become cheap energy that isn't at the mercy of whatever happens in the Middle East or Russia which will also possibly make those areas more peaceful as there is less to fight over.

Also, "cheap" is a slippery word. Fossil fuels cost society far more than the £ you pay your energy provider. Cost of pollution (climate change, flood protection costs, etc.), costs of dirty air (health impacts on productivity, costs to NHS, etc.), costs for inactive travel (maintain roads, etc.), etc., etc.

Add the principle of "polluter pays" and it can become a very different equation.

People like Blair just don't understand so many things they seem to want to lecture the world about.

 

[briantrumpet]

Also, "cheap" is a slippery word. Fossil fuels cost society far more than the £ you pay your energy provider. Cost of pollution (climate change, flood protection costs, etc.), costs of dirty air (health impacts on productivity, costs to NHS, etc.), costs for inactive travel (maintain roads, etc.), etc., etc.

Add the principle of "polluter pays" and it can become a very different equation.

People like Blair just don't understand so many things they seem to want to lecture the world about.

Yeah, he's just swallowed the whole fossil fuel argument and is regurgitating their bollox.

 

[C R]

Yeah, he's just swallowed very well paid by the whole fossil fuel argument and is regurgitating their bollox.

FTFY

 

[Pross]

I really struggle to understand the negativity towards green energy from many sources. I can understand it with certain politicians who are no doubt benefitting in some way from the fossil fuel companies but given the instability in the vast majority of the areas that produce fossil fuels, moving away from reliance on them just seems like a no brainer even if you don't buy into the global warming elements.

 

[briantrumpet]

I really struggle to understand the negativity towards green energy from many sources. I can understand it with certain politicians who are no doubt benefitting in some way from the fossil fuel companies but given the instability in the vast majority of the areas that produce fossil fuels, moving away from reliance on them just seems like a no brainer even if you don't buy into the global warming elements.

There's some weird psychology that goes on in right wing brains that opposes obviously logical things that have been part of a left wing or green agenda, and that opposes things that simply move things on from 'how it's always been'. Fossil fuels seem to be one of those trigger topics that is in effect a 'declaration of faith' in Conservatism, along with anti-woke etc. The Telegraph opinion pages (which is most of the Telegraph these days) is a good gauge of what the trigger subjects are. You can't be a true right-winger if you show any sympathy towards sustainable energy, tolerance, etc.

 

[briantrumpet]

Let's just say that Bluesky isn't being terribly sympathetic towards Tony Blair this morning. This is one of the more polite ones.

 

[Pblakeney]

I really struggle to understand the negativity towards green energy from many sources. I can understand it with certain politicians who are no doubt benefitting in some way from the fossil fuel companies but given the instability in the vast majority of the areas that produce fossil fuels, moving away from reliance on them just seems like a no brainer even if you don't buy into the global warming elements.

A. Money.