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[briantrumpet]

Probably best not tell them that most traffic light sensors are cut into the road surface (although above ground microwave detection is becoming more common).

Seems like Fucking Idiot Sensors are at most busy junctions.

 

[Psamathe]

The only conclusion it's possible to draw is that some people are just fucking idiots.
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It's a problem made a lot worse by the radio signals from the tracking devices much of the populartion had put in them under the excuse "Covid Vaccine" ... (I'll get my coat ...)

 

[farfromtheland]

It's a problem made a lot worse by the radio signals from the tracking devices much of the populartion had put in them under the excuse "Covid Vaccine" ... (I'll get my coat ...)

gee bubs I fink I learnt about ultrasoun an microwaves an stuff when i wourked in the medical skool librey an then did non-invasive diag noses resewarch in the uni innit.

wotever yer fink yer mite as well be a knob if yer wanna believe a meme wivout the sauce up it becos that's wot iggerant peeps do like.

 

[Pblakeney]

 

[AuroraSaab]

I'd need details of the microwave detection and some associated health research to judge that one, but I'm guessing disruption to pacemakers is a possibilty.

You can't weld if you have a pacemaker due to the electromagnetic effects. I wouldn't have thought the amount of microwaves you get standing by a traffic light would be much but I'd be interested to know.

 

[First Aspect]

You can't weld if you have a pacemaker due to the electromagnetic effects. I wouldn't have thought the amount of microwaves you get standing by a traffic light would be much but I'd be interested to know.

Do any of you have any or all of a microwave oven, a mobile phones or wifi?

If.so, and if these things concern you because of microraygun emissions, I recommend clothing made out of wire mesh, and that you live in a cave.

Alternatively accept my metaphorical pat on the head and assurance that traffic lights are safe*.







(*Except when used by cyclists, in which case they are deadly, because cyclists.)

 

[Rusty Nails]

When I had a pacemaker fitted a few years ago I was told there could be problems from use of travelators and ceramic hobs. We don't have a ceramic hob, but I have always used travelators with no problems.
I'll try not to climb up any traffic lights, and have taken welding off my list of future jobs.

Probably won't go to electronic shifting on my bikes. Better safe than sorry.

 

[Psamathe]

Do any of you have any or all of a microwave oven, a mobile phones or wifi?

Or WiFi? When I was working one of our suppliers persuaded us to be a supplier for their WiFi (very mainstream supplier) mainly as we did a lot of industrial warehouse systems. So we'd have to also survey the sites for AP installations (hated doing it).

Canteens with industrial/commercial microwaves were a nightmare as you'd survey, get close to end, find the microwave then have to put somebody to keep the microwave going and do the survey again (with very different results. More than once I told customer to put microwave in a skip.

 

[First Aspect]

Or WiFi? When I was working one of our suppliers persuaded us to be a supplier for their WiFi (very mainstream supplier) mainly as we did a lot of industrial warehouse systems. So we'd have to also survey the sites for AP installations (hated doing it).

Canteens with industrial/commercial microwaves were a nightmare as you'd survey, get close to end, find the microwave then have to put somebody to keep the microwave going and do the survey again (with very different results. More than once I told customer to put microwave in a skip.

Microwave ovens leak when the resonant chamber is the wrong shape. Its a problem if the staff get cooked.

Exposure from wifi and phones and, when functioning correctly, microwave ovens is at such a low amplitude that the molecular movement is negligible compared to normal thermal movement.

Arc welding and other high energy electrical equipment is a risk to people with pacemaker via a different mechanism - direct contact with magnetic and electrical fields. These re static rather than radiative I think. Radiation from the arc will merely blind you and give you a tan.

The main risks to wearers of pacemakers from traffic lights is fall from a height. I do not recommend climbing them.

 

[Ian H]

Here's an authoritative explanation of the effects & risks. https://www.emfields.com/FAQS/
Here's Phil, who wrote it https://www.emfields.com/about.php

 

[farfromtheland]

That's a solid resource ^ thanks.
If I were of reproductive age I'd still be wary of sticking my phone in my trousers though. The tech is moving very fast and I'd recommend research reviews over time. Calibration is key.

Also don't much appreciate a pic of N.F. in a tin hat. I'm suggesting understanding of people's concerns here, and not believing or posting insulting stuff without information to back it up.

 

[First Aspect]

That's a solid resource ^ thanks.
If I were of reproductive age I'd still be wary of sticking my phone in my trousers though. The tech is moving very fast and I'd recommend research reviews over time. Calibration is key.

Also don't much appreciate a pic of N.F. in a tin hat. I'm suggesting understanding of people's concerns here, and not believing or posting insulting stuff without information to back it up.

It can sometimes be frustrating as an (ex) scientist when things are explained as being of negligible risk, but people still have "concerns". The fundamentals here are frequency and amplitude, and the "technology" of mobile phones is only relevant to the extent that these factors are changed. The range within which they may change has already been studied.

If people are still "concerned" after seeing facts allaying those concerns, a bit of humour might be the least worst way to deal with the frustration.

 

[farfromtheland]

The range within which they may change has already been studied.

If people are still "concerned" after seeing facts allaying those concerns, a bit of humour might be the least worst way to deal with the frustration.

The range within which they may change may itself change, and the care taken in calibration may decline. Scrutiny is an ongoing process.

I love a bit of humour. Not when it links concern with a known fascist though.

 

[Pblakeney]

That's a solid resource ^ thanks.
If I were of reproductive age I'd still be wary of sticking my phone in my trousers though. The tech is moving very fast and I'd recommend research reviews over time. Calibration is key.

Also don't much appreciate a pic of N.F. in a tin hat. I'm suggesting understanding of people's concerns here, and not believing or posting insulting stuff without information to back it up.

Sage advice. We've all done a pocket dial but has anyone done a pocket torch?
It can have painful consequences. So I've heard... 🙄😉🤪

 

[First Aspect]

The range within which they may change may itself change, and the care taken in calibration may decline. Scrutiny is an ongoing process.

I love a bit of humour. Not when it links concern with a known fascist though.

It's hard to put this in context, but this is not advanced science. It's just thermodynamics, rasy to measure and nothing will change in future.

An analogy might be ongoing studies about Newtonian mechanics, just to check that nothing has changed.