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Stevo 666

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Nope. It's hard to achieve perfect, but it seems reasonably good. The problem is that we have a lot of fascist racist xenophobes who say things like " we want the right sort of immigrants and in sensible numbers" when what they are, in fact, referring to is refugees seeking asylum who have arrived "illegally" due to there being no legal route to process their claims.

Refugees are a tiny, tiny, part of net migration but are used as a scapegoat for all the ills in society. The Greens now have an excellent, progressive immigration and asylum policy that would solve the asylum problems and greatly reduce the costs of housing refugees. It's pretty much what I have posted several times - you let asylum seekers work and pay taxes whilst claims are processed. You also process claims faster. It's a no brainer.

That maybe what the far right is saying but I'm looking at the overall picture.

While refugees are a smaller part of the total picture, they are not popular with a large part of the general public and cannot be ignored. Also they do seem to be putting a fair bit of strain on local councils who have to accommodate them and provide for them. As for your idea of letting them work legally then firstly, many will prefer the non-legal route as they won't have to pay taxes and secondly, whether they do take the legal route or not then they are likely to be net recipients from the state - see my point above about net contributors.
 

PurplePenguin

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As I'm self-employed, does this mean that I'll have to snoop on myself now?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdof...ng-all-your-text-messages-with-your-employer/

On a related note, Meta has been going on about end to end encryption on Whatsapp for ages. At the same time they offer a back-up service which no one seems to question. Prior to 2021, this wasn't encrypted at all. Now it is encrypted, but only with a password provided by the user. For most people, this effectively means not really encrypted. This year they have introduced fingerprint encryption which actually mean it is protected. That's for me people who actively opt in.
 

Pross

Senior Member
So I guess you can't quote me then...

Bit tricky when the old forum is gone and a bit tricky to quote you not criticising as, um, you weren't criticising. Can you provide quotes of you criticising the Tories on their lax approach to visa allocation? That should be far easier.
 

icowden

Shaman
While refugees are a smaller part of the total picture, they are not popular with a large part of the general public and cannot be ignored.
I'm not sure that's true. They are definitely not popular with a certain type of person who "thinks they should go back to where they came from. The country's full innit".

Also they do seem to be putting a fair bit of strain on local councils who have to accommodate them and provide for them.
Any evidence for this?

As for your idea of letting them work legally then firstly, many will prefer the non-legal route as they won't have to pay taxes and secondly, whether they do take the legal route or not then they are likely to be net recipients from the state - see my point above about net contributors.
Again, making stuff up because it's what you think - doesn't work.
https://togetherwithrefugees.org.uk...nefit to the,within the current asylum system.

Yes, you could argue that this study is likely to be biased towards refugees, but every study that has looked at refugees / asylum seekers has fully debunked the "they came here for benefits" myth propagated by Farage, Robinson, Daily Mail et al.

You only have to apply a small modicum of thought to realise that someone spending the remainder of their family savings and travelling for thousands of miles under dangerous conditions with risk of death, is more likely to want to learn skills / get work to establish themselves in order to improve things for themselves and their family. Many refugees are skilled - spending money on training / retraining / English skills has a far higher return on investment than effectively imprisoning people for 6 months to a year whilst giving them handouts.
 
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Pross

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Have to due to nature of the building construction. Web sites never have the appropriate options (designed to cater for the majority not including the minority).

Much like trying to sort out a travel or hotel booking for a group. For some reason that also seems to involved the flights, rooms etc. being more expensive than if you all booked separately even though the admin must be cheaper (and in the case of hotel bookings you're getting their occupancy rates up as not that many are full).
 
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briantrumpet

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The world's gone to pot, and it's all the fault of whoever's in charge at this particular moment, obviously. I get the feeling that electorates are going "Fuck it, whoever I vote for, it can't get any worse, so we might as well go for the promise of unicorns", and then discovering that, yes, it can get worse, then blaming the incumbent.

Can we go back to, say, 2015, and with the benefit of hindforesight, have another go at the last ten years?

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PurplePenguin

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Much like trying to sort out a travel or hotel booking for a group. For some reason that also seems to involved the flights, rooms etc. being more expensive than if you all booked separately even though the admin must be cheaper (and in the case of hotel bookings you're getting their occupancy rates up as not that many are full).

I assumed this was due to pricing algorithms. When you see an advertised price, it might be for only 4 people. If you then try to book for 16 people, only four of them can have the cheap price.
 

Pblakeney

Veteran
Have to due to nature of the building construction. Web sites never have the appropriate options (designed to cater for the majority not including the minority).

There's a lot to be said for keeping life more basic. 😉
 

Pblakeney

Veteran
The world's gone to pot, and it's all the fault of whoever's in charge at this particular moment, obviously. I get the feeling that electorates are going "Fuck it, whoever I vote for, it can't get any worse, so we might as well go for the promise of unicorns", and then discovering that, yes, it can get worse, then blaming the incumbent.

Can we go back to, say, 2015, and with the benefit of hindforesight, have another go at the last ten years?

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Welcome to the world of Eeyore. 😂
 

CXRAndy

Shaman
The world's gone to pot, and it's all the fault of whoever's in charge at this particular moment, obviously. I get the feeling that electorates are going "Fuck it, whoever I vote for, it can't get any worse, so we might as well go for the promise of unicorns", and then discovering that, yes, it can get worse, then blaming the incumbent.

Can we go back to, say, 2015, and with the benefit of hindforesight, have another go at the last ten years?

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Can we please go back to the 1970s.
 
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