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[C R]

In other news ... "nice one Australia"

Austria, Shirley.

 

[Psamathe]

Austria, Shirley.

My typo (phone offers words and I got in the habit of using them. I must take more care.

 

[briantrumpet]

Oof. Last time I cycled along this long gorge road (Summer 2024, before the ticker problems), I did actually look up at a lot of the rockfaces and thought how fragile it all seemed. Well, since then, one woman has been killed when a chunk of overhang fell directly onto her car, and the road itself has been closed more than being open, despite it being a pretty crucial main road through a mountainous region, to try to stabilise the worst bits.

And now it's closed again, as a bit outside of the stabilisation works has been falling down. There's a video...

https://france3-regions.franceinfo....94-coupee-pour-au-moins-10-jours-3124372.html

 

[briantrumpet]

I'm officially confused.

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

I'm officially confused.

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My BIL is Irish, he has spent the last 80mins very conflicted 😂

 

[briantrumpet]

Actually, a good linguistic question. You can't do the 'firefighters' gambit, you can't call them 'pilots' (as that excludes the non-pilot 'airpeople'), and the latter sounds ridiculous.

 

[briantrumpet]

OK, so I might have chopped off the bit saying that they also seized £750k's worth of drugs too...

 

[Pblakeney]

Actually, a good linguistic question. You can't do the 'firefighters' gambit, you can't call them 'pilots' (as that excludes the non-pilot 'airpeople'), and the latter sounds ridiculous.

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Air crew?
Some people like to over complicate things. 😉

 

[Pross]

Actually, a good linguistic question. You can't do the 'firefighters' gambit, you can't call them 'pilots' (as that excludes the non-pilot 'airpeople'), and the latter sounds ridiculous.

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Aircrew?

 

[briantrumpet]

Aircrew?

Actually, yes, I think that works, even if it's generally more usually used as the label for the whole team on an aeroplane.

EDIT - OED currently only gives the sense of the crew as a whole, rather than for the individuals, but that could change in time.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Actually, yes, I think that works, even if it's generally more usually used as the label for the whole team on an aeroplane.

Just goes to show that, in most circumstances, words don't really matter. The airmen/airpeople/aircrew are still dead and their families probably don't give a toss what they were called.

 

[briantrumpet]

Just goes to show that, in most circumstances, words don't really matter. The airmen/airpeople/aircrew are still dead and their families probably don't give a toss what they were called.

I'm not going to make a judgement about that as it's outside of my experience on all counts.

 

[Rusty Nails]

I'm not going to make a judgement about that as it's outside of my experience on all counts.

Not every statement is requesting judgement.

 

[briantrumpet]

Not every statement is requesting judgement.

My point being that it's up to 'female airmen' (or their parents) to make that call, if they want to.

Sure, it's not going to be high on the list of priorities when a relation has been killed, but equally it's not up to others to tell them that it doesn't matter.

 

[PurplePenguin]

Actually, a good linguistic question. You can't do the 'firefighters' gambit, you can't call them 'pilots' (as that excludes the non-pilot 'airpeople'), and the latter sounds ridiculous.

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It's probably a strawwoman argument, but a personager of a women's sports team told me they use "man" as in "man on", because it's so much easier.