BRFR Cake Stop 'breaking news' miscellany

[Ian H]

This is really interesting: RW press and RW MPs massively out of step with the public over 'Net Zero', and Tory MPs effectively getting radicalised by RW online media that have lost their heads.

https://strongmessagehere.substack.com/p/whats-happened-to-the-uks-climate

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The very rich believe they stand to benefit. They mostly control the media.

 

[PurplePenguin]

Someone pointing out that to his credit (or at least Carrie Johnson's) that Boris Johnson didn't get sucked into the anti-net-zero pro-fossil-fuel lunacy. Small mercies, and all that.

Amber Rudd made the point that Boris was really important for decarbonisation because he had the popularity to deliver it.

 

[Ian H]

Amber Rudd made the point that Boris was really important for decarbonisation because he had the popularity to deliver it.

But not the work-ethic, leadership or character to do so.

 

[icowden]

But not the work-ethic, leadership or character to do so.

That's unfair. If someone had given him a big enough bribe, he'd have jumped at it.

 

[briantrumpet]

That's unfair. If someone had given him a big enough bribe, he'd have jumped at it.

Has he finished his Shakespeare book yet? 🤔😜

 

[Pross]

This is really interesting: RW press and RW MPs massively out of step with the public over 'Net Zero', and Tory MPs effectively getting radicalised by RW online media that have lost their heads.

https://strongmessagehere.substack.com/p/whats-happened-to-the-uks-climate

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Isn't it just a sign that the Tory MPs that managed to get re-elected in 2024 tended to be those that were a Reform tribute act and therefore mimic the Reforn anti- net zero stuff? So not so much MPs getting radicalised but the moderates losing their seats.

 

[briantrumpet]

Isn't it just a sign that the Tory MPs that managed to get re-elected in 2024 tended to be those that were a Reform tribute act and therefore mimic the Reforn anti- net zero stuff? So not so much MPs getting radicalised but the moderates losing their seats.

Dunno - would have to look at how individual MPs' views have moved or not.

e.g. James Cleverley

https://politicsintheuk.substack.com/p/cleverly-lies-about-net-zero-policies

 

[Pblakeney]

Those politicians demanding more North Sea drilling either just very dumb or working on a different agenda (one that doesn't work in the interests of the population and does not help reduce energy costs).

Summed up in one sentence.

 

[briantrumpet]

Michael Grade retakes the Tory Whip after retiring as Ofcom chairman, and says GB News is fine as it balances out all the others, who aren't right wing enough for his taste. But that's not how Ofcom is supposed to work: each broadcaster is supposed to be impartial.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/jun/01/broadcasters-embarrassed-gb-news-ofcom-impartiality

 

[secretsqirrel]

Michael Grade retakes the Tory Whip after retiring as Ofcom chairman, and says GB News is fine as it balances out all the others, who aren't right wing enough for his taste. But that's not how Ofcom is supposed to work: each broadcaster is supposed to be impartial.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/jun/01/broadcasters-embarrassed-gb-news-ofcom-impartiality

Michael Grade takes the dollar more like.

 

[briantrumpet]

Another one for @Pross. I've mentioned I've got a good friend whose a director of an (obviously evil) housing company, and I suspect that this list for a development in Brixham will be standard for pretty much any development developers propose. That other posters in the FB Group cite that existing houses aren't selling quickly does suggest that people haven't grasped that maybe the asking prices are too high in a somewhat sluggish market.

I'll admit I haven't looked at the proposals themselves, but I can't help thinking that objectors would do better if they cut the crappy 'concerns', 'impacts', etc, and didn't try to find objections covering every possible angle they can think of, but focused on the ones that actually breach statutory guidelines, as that's what the planners will be working to (or if they don't, what the courts will base their appeal adjudication on).

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[Rusty Nails]

Another one for @Pross. I've mentioned I've got a good friend whose a director of an (obviously evil) housing company, and I suspect that this list for a development in Brixham will be standard for pretty much any development developers propose. That other posters in the FB Group cite that existing houses aren't selling quickly does suggest that people haven't grasped that maybe the asking prices are too high in a somewhat sluggish market.

I'll admit I haven't looked at the proposals themselves, but I can't help thinking that objectors would do better if they cut the crappy 'concerns', 'impacts', etc, and didn't try to find objections covering every possible angle they can think of, but focused on the ones that actually breach statutory guidelines, as that's what the planners will be working to (or if they don't, what the courts will base their appeal adjudication on).

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They may have addressed the breadth, but certainly not the depth.

 

[Ian H]

They may have addressed the breadth, but certainly not the depth.

Are we talking cellars?

 

[Pross]

Another one for @Pross. I've mentioned I've got a good friend whose a director of an (obviously evil) housing company, and I suspect that this list for a development in Brixham will be standard for pretty much any development developers propose. That other posters in the FB Group cite that existing houses aren't selling quickly does suggest that people haven't grasped that maybe the asking prices are too high in a somewhat sluggish market.

I'll admit I haven't looked at the proposals themselves, but I can't help thinking that objectors would do better if they cut the crappy 'concerns', 'impacts', etc, and didn't try to find objections covering every possible angle they can think of, but focused on the ones that actually breach statutory guidelines, as that's what the planners will be working to (or if they don't, what the courts will base their appeal adjudication on).

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All reasonably valid issues but there will be highly paid* consultants addressing all of them as part of any application and if they fail to suitably satisfy the Council’s own officers dealing with those issues then there’ll be a recommendation to refuse. Seriously, do they think no-one else would think of these things without them?

*I wish

 

[Rusty Nails]

Are we talking cellars?

That question's a bit low.