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Psamathe

Legendary Member
There are two parts. The Moroccan border guards were apparently letting everyone though. The Spanish Border Guards were not, hence the swimming around the end of the border.
And when you have 60,000 people trying to swim across in limited space with open entry and restricted exit I guess it get dangerous. No idea about the causes of the tragic deaths but than many people swimming in limited space must be a high risk.
 
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Pblakeney

Squire
There are two parts. The Moroccan border guards were apparently letting everyone though. The Spanish Border Guards were not, hence the swimming around the end of the border.

Thanks.
Right, so Morocco are directly involved. Question is, at what level and to what ends? Also, anyone else?
 

C R

Legendary Member
Thanks.
Right, so Morocco are directly involved. Question is, at what level and to what ends? Also, anyone else?

Spain have always opposed Morocco's occupation of Western Sahara. Morocco is courting US support for the anexation by for instance naming a road being built there after Trump. US, Russia and possibly Israel all benefit from annoying Spain and causing strife within the EU.
 

Pblakeney

Squire
Spain have always opposed Morocco's occupation of Western Sahara. Morocco is courting US support for the anexation by for instance naming a road being built there after Trump. US, Russia and possibly Israel all benefit from annoying Spain and causing strife within the EU.

All this strife doesn't bode well.
The US baffles me. They are in league with Russia who are in league with Iran who are at war with the US. No, they don't baffle me, they're nuts.
 

PurplePenguin

Über Member
There are two parts. The Moroccan border guards were apparently letting everyone though. The Spanish Border Guards were not, hence the swimming around the end of the border.

The swimming was due to a recent court case that meant asylum seekers that arrive by sea could not be deported as easily.
 
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briantrumpet

Timewaster
The swimming was due to a recent court case that meant asylum seekers that arrive by sea could not be deported as easily.

Here's clarification from Spain:

https://www.exteriores.gob.es/en/Co...-permanecer-en-Espana-ni-llegar-a-Europa.aspx

Entering Spain irregularly through Ceuta or Melilla does not grant the right to remain in the country, to travel to mainland Spain, or to move freely within Europe. It also poses a grave risk to life. No court ruling has changed this.

The recent Supreme Court ruling clarifies which procedure applies to those arriving by sea. Nothing more. It does not amend the Immigration Act. It does not declare refusal of entry at the border unlawful. It does not open any route of entry. It does not prevent returns.

The border has also been reinforced with a 500-metre maritime containment barrier at the Tarajal breakwater, compatible with the ruling and with returns. Nearly all of those who crossed on 30 July have already been returned to Morocco.

Ceuta and Melilla have a border control regime unique in Europe: a double filter. One control at the border with Morocco and a second, Schengen control on departure for mainland Spain, by sea and by air. No one boards without identifying themselves to the National Police.

The extraordinary regularisation process bears no relation to these events: it applies only to those already living in Spain before 1 January 2026. Anyone who crossed on 30 July is excluded. The only route is the legal one.
 
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briantrumpet

briantrumpet

Timewaster
FFS. If they do that, then they should make a ruling on checking the angle of dangle for men's shorts.

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PurplePenguin

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Ian H

Shaman
it would appear that even people with brown skin, have a problem with immigrants with brown skin:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gx2y454w5o

You mean it's not just white people who hold individually differing opinions on stuff?
 

secretsqirrel

spiteful class warrior
All this strife doesn't bode well.
The US baffles me. They are in league with Russia who are in league with Iran who are at war with the US. No, they don't baffle me, they're nuts.

Trumpy is confused. He doesn’t who the goodies and baddies are, and which side he is on.
 
I wonder if this is less about regugees and more about the Morocan Government pressuring Spain. It seems far too much of a coincidence that this massive and sudden numbers happened within days of Spain improving relations with Algeria which reflects on the ongoing issue of Western Sahara. Numbers like were seen in Ceuta don't happen spontaneously. To get 60,000 migrants together takes a lot of logistics (May 25 to May 26 UK got 36,000 crossing in small boats).

There are definitely games being played by the Moroccan government, but as mentioned above this highlights how Spain is a soft touch on immigration which has previously legalised all illegal immigrants and this is only going to encourage more 'triers'.
 
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