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C R

Squire
Sorry, shouldn't have joked about it. Hope the house is OK, though obviously people come first... everything else is just 'stuff' (as I told myself when I evacuated for one night here in 2022...)

No personal or material damage in this case. I think after there were a few casualties a couple of months ago, I think the authorities have decided to err on the side of caution, and decided to maintain the evacuation until they were sure that the fire had really stopped moving towards the town.
 
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briantrumpet

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No personal or material damage in this case. I think after there were a few casualties a couple of months ago, I think the authorities have decided to err on the side of caution, and decided to maintain the evacuation until they were sure that the fire had really stopped moving towards the town.

Phew. Ditto here this time. They do actually make every effort to protect groups of properties especially around here – they actually brought in a specialised unit from elsewhere to protect Charens, which is a tiny village with a single precipitous road for access, but had enough confidence to start with just to tell people to stay indoors initially because of the smoke, and I think they'll be OK now, despite the fire still not being 'maîtrisé'. They did evacuate Montmaur during the previous really big fire though, and when you look at the photo I took today, that no buildings got destroyed is amazing... that's the old village on top of the little hill near the middle of the photo. I cycled up the track on the big mountain behind last summer. Won't ever be the same again!

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First Aspect

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I definitely do not have a good enough knowledge of the sector to articulate the solution, but I think you should explain why universities are now failing. Is it because domestic students simply do not pay enough? If so, then that seems like a decent argument to increase the contribution per student. Is it because international students don't come as much? If so, then that is less straight-forward, because there needs to be an understanding why and whether fixing it will break something else. Is it because some universities simply don't appeal/ are not good enough and there is a reducing number of kids willing to be saddled with debt (note child population is decreasing from what is around year 8 I think)? If so, then the solution is not more money, it is something else, because those universities have failed, and I would be willing to consider offers. If Meta want to fund a degree in stalking/radicalising/spying then is that so bad? OK, other options could be considered.

There's a fair bit to unpack here, and I'm not familiar enough either. However, I am not convinced there is a causal link between tuition fees and "education inflation". Firstly, "education inflation" has been going on for a long time. I had landlords in the late 90s who were academics researching this. Secondly, the influx of non-UK pay-students (c.f. pay drivers in F1) was a thing before tuition fees. When I was doing my Part II, the middle common room was full of American students doing a semester or three at "Axfurrd" for exorbitant fees. Not all of them would be, let's say, Ivy League standard students, but most of them were from rich families. For sure this has increased, but I wonder if that's just a symptom of funding shortfalls; i.e. the introduction of tuition fees and increased overseas students are both symptoms of the same thing.

As Pinno points out, tuition fees are not levied against Scottish students attending Scottish universities (but they are applied to English students). This hasn't suppressed the number of foreign students. In fact, the issue up there is now that it is much harder for local students to get a place in a Scottish university, because they are all trying to plug the funding gap - the SNP virtue signaled no tuition fees but have not increased state funding to compensate.

Fwiw I have not seen any cost benefit analysis of tuition fees, but I would question whether the suppression of economic consumer activity that results from generations of people with 10-20 years' of a 9% "graduate tax" might actually outweigh the benefit of trying to claw back those fees. That might be the reason many of our European cousins don't have tuition fees.

I agree that not every subject is susceptible to being turned into a university degree. However it is less clear whether this means we send too many people to university, and some of them should go and learn plumbing instead. Our university attendance rates aren't particularly high compared to other rich countries, and so the counter argument would be we should be getting more people to do degrees in subjects that should be studied at degree level AND seeking to increase vocational training.
 

Ian H

Shaman
No personal or material damage in this case. I think after there were a few casualties a couple of months ago, I think the authorities have decided to err on the side of caution, and decided to maintain the evacuation until they were sure that the fire had really stopped moving towards the town.

E's cousin and his Spanish wife have a small farm not far from Madrid. They are currently having to stay with friends in Madrid until it's safe to return
 

Pblakeney

Squire
There's a fair bit to unpack here, and I'm not familiar enough either. However, I am not convinced there is a causal link between tuition fees and "education inflation". Firstly, "education inflation" has been going on for a long time. I had landlords in the late 90s who were academics researching this. Secondly, the influx of non-UK pay-students (c.f. pay drivers in F1) was a thing before tuition fees. When I was doing my Part II, the middle common room was full of American students doing a semester or three at "Axfurrd" for exorbitant fees. Not all of them would be, let's say, Ivy League standard students, but most of them were from rich families. For sure this has increased, but I wonder if that's just a symptom of funding shortfalls; i.e. the introduction of tuition fees and increased overseas students are both symptoms of the same thing.

As Pinno points out, tuition fees are not levied against Scottish students attending Scottish universities (but they are applied to English students). This hasn't suppressed the number of foreign students. In fact, the issue up there is now that it is much harder for local students to get a place in a Scottish university, because they are all trying to plug the funding gap - the SNP virtue signaled no tuition fees but have not increased state funding to compensate.

Fwiw I have not seen any cost benefit analysis of tuition fees, but I would question whether the suppression of economic consumer activity that results from generations of people with 10-20 years' of a 9% "graduate tax" might actually outweigh the benefit of trying to claw back those fees. That might be the reason many of our European cousins don't have tuition fees.

I agree that not every subject is susceptible to being turned into a university degree. However it is less clear whether this means we send too many people to university, and some of them should go and learn plumbing instead. Our university attendance rates aren't particularly high compared to other rich countries, and so the counter argument would be we should be getting more people to do degrees in subjects that should be studied at degree level AND seeking to increase vocational training.

There was a study done in Canada during the ‘80s while I was there. Conclusion was that a top end career post uni won out. No surprise.
But a successful non-uni career trumped a middling post-uni career financially as they were further up the ladder earlier and without the outlay.
 

Pblakeney

Squire
Well, since you mention chocolate...

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Nice to have my memory confirmed.
I remember the Yorkie first being released and it was quite bad for your teeth. 🤣
 
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