Pblakeney
Guru
The only thing you are missing is politicking.
Budget 2025
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The only thing you are missing is politicking.
secretsqirrel
Well-Known Member
OP
OP
Beebo
Guru
It’s pretty rubbish politicking and doesn’t seem to make any sense.
Pblakeney
Guru
In my view politicking is the main reason this country is in the state it is. Has been for a considerable period of time but it's getting worse.
There is too much time spent on point scoring and not enough on governing. The opposition are an integral part of that governance.
briantrumpet
Squire
I think the only way to make sense of modern politics is to view it through the prism of X and what these things will sound like in a tweet.
briantrumpet
Squire
I said it frequently over on CS, but the post-Truss govt spent all its time trolling Labour rather than actually doing anything meaningful: their few 'policies' seemed to be predicated on 'winding up the libs', not solving any problems whatsoever (see the cynical NI cut from Hunt).
secretsqirrel
Well-Known Member
briantrumpet
Squire
Some people are just sore that they didn't get to fund turning up the heating in their mansions by Truss's brilliant budget.
briantrumpet
Squire
The FT's Stephen Bush suggesting they are just aiming at the wrong target, if they want to criticise Reeves. Maybe the baying crowd of journos want that quick fix of "She's lying!" rather than the less catchy "We think her forecasts are wrong, but we'll only know for sure in 2029".
Psamathe
Guru
To me it's not about whether or not there should be more "headroom" or we should be taxing more to spend more on welfare - those are political choices.
What is so bad about the issue of "misleading" is that when the Chancellor presents a situation and expects people to believe that situation she should be telling the truth.
Political decisions about taxation & expenditure are completely separate to presenting true data about the real state of the economy.
Pblakeney
Guru
Well, I blame all the people doing the speculation pre budget, while speculation was spooking the markets. As said prior, people should wait to see what's in the budget before criticising it. Reeves was responding to criticism. If she'd said nothing then things would have escalated.
Anyone thinking there wouldn't be tax rises was deluded. Anyone thinking there won't be further tax rises is deluded.
Also, no politician of any colour wants to come clean on the real state of the economy. The electorate cannot handle the truth. (Respect to Jack)
CXRAndy
Shaman
LCR chickened out on a grilling from MPs.
Over
60% believed she lied
58% dislike her as Chancellor only 16% approve of her (mostly on NCAP)
48% thinks is a bad budget
Cabinet confirms, they were not informed of the fiscal situation by either LCR or TTK, it being far more positive than lead to believe.-they were misled and are angry about it
Over
60% believed she lied
58% dislike her as Chancellor only 16% approve of her (mostly on NCAP)
48% thinks is a bad budget
Cabinet confirms, they were not informed of the fiscal situation by either LCR or TTK, it being far more positive than lead to believe.-they were misled and are angry about it
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Psamathe
Guru
Reeves was one of the main sources of that speculation. eg
If a Chancellor makes statement indicating the state of the economy people, markets, etc. will react and adjust their behaviour according to those statements so they need to be able to believe they are true. "It's politics" is no excuse for making known untrue statements to the public/markets.
briantrumpet
Squire
The markets seem to have given a collective shrug to the whole thing.
