Rusty Nails
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In the words of another politician she was just "economical with the actualité". Happens a lot in politics.
Budget 2025
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In the words of another politician she was just "economical with the actualité". Happens a lot in politics.
briantrumpet
Squire
Alan Clark, IIRC?
Psamathe
Guru
Need to distinguish between pre-budget speeches Ms Reeves made and the actual budget itself.
The budget itself is a political decision some will agree with others disagree with.
It's the pre-budget "state of the economy" where she was misleading. Different people will have different opinions about how much headroom, etc. is appropriate but official figures she had were showing a surplus yet she was describing a "hole". It is the pre-budget commentary Ms Reeves was giving that is being questioned not the budget decisions themselves.
Psamathe
Guru
I would agree. And whilst the budget shows a reduction in the debt by the end of the forecast term it's pretty marginal reduction and OBR only give Ms Reeves a 59% chance of meeting that target. Add that the increased taxes to meet that target come around the next General Election and there seems a lot of doubt that it will actually happen.
Other way round the debt issue is to growing GDP but the budget isn't really going to create that (and after the advice from one company I use for investments can't see investment in the UK going anywhere positive at the moment).
Big problem is Government spending and across Ms Reeves two budgets she's committed £80bn in new Government spending. That money has to be borrowed ...
First Aspect
Veteran
Head of the OBR has resigned. True to form, most of us predicted it but the OBR had to downgrade it's expectations.
Pblakeney
Guru
briantrumpet
Squire
Reading between the lines, I'm guessing that Dunt wasn't overly impressed.
It's not that there aren't things to criticise about the budget itself, but this infantilising of the audience into a "he said... she said... " mindset is one reason why we're in this mess. Does anyone rate Chris Mason at all?
It's not that there aren't things to criticise about the budget itself, but this infantilising of the audience into a "he said... she said... " mindset is one reason why we're in this mess. Does anyone rate Chris Mason at all?
briantrumpet
Squire
Who'd've thought it... the Telegraph making stuff up about benefits claimants?
https://benefitsinthefuture.com/lies-damned-lies-and-the-telegraph/
https://benefitsinthefuture.com/lies-damned-lies-and-the-telegraph/
Psamathe
Guru
Farãge does. Mason probably Faráge's biggest cheerleader on TV these days.
briantrumpet
Squire
Tru dat.
briantrumpet
Squire
I'm sure that Chris Mason will be right on it to correct his BBC piece saying that Reeves lied.
secretsqirrel
Well-Known Member
Mason really is rubbish and sadly not the only one on the BBC at the moment. I read through this vacuous piece from him yesterday. Was none the wiser 🤷♂️
Chris Mason: Why, in my judgement, Reeves was misleading on one specific point
Chris Mason: Why, in my judgement, Reeves was misleading on one specific point
Psamathe
Guru
Nobody suggesting she lied about the challenges facing the UK. What she is alleged to have lied about is the current state of the economy.
CXRAndy
Shaman
The very premise on which she has raised taxes on just about everyone who works in the UK.
