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Climate Crisis: Are we doing enough?
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theclaud
Reading around the chip
It's pretty suitable for, er, forest. Which is better for pretty much everything downstream including productive lowland farming. Monbiot has been banging on about this stuff for years to anyone who will listen. The bare hillsides are artefacts of farming subsidies.
Fab Foodie
Legendary Member
That land should not be farmed for sheep, but rewilded....
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Oops - eloquently beaten to it by Claudine!
NZ lamb sold in the UK has a lower carbon footprint (among other environmental markers) than UK hill lamb.
However you carve-it, meat as we consume it today (globally), is absolutely unsustainable....
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dutchguylivingintheuk
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Jup throwing away money to people who say they are gonna solve the problem by creating a other problem, so the same people have a new problem to adress in about 10/15 years time. You known in the early 2000's after Al Gore said ''where alle gonna die act now'' they came up with wood-pellets as ''green'' fuel, by then it was promoted by the lie it was all old wood that was turned into pellets.
Now people with wood-pellets heating are told there dirty polluters, just as all those poeple buying ''clean'' diesel cars now are being told they are driving ''an older polluting vehicle'' and are slammed with environmental charges.. How long before they come up with an new zone because you are driving ''an older polutting ev'' or something.
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albion
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When diesel became the new green it was 'cough cough'.
Just shows what a bunch of t***s most politicians are.
Just shows what a bunch of t***s most politicians are.
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albion
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-for-cyclists-on-table-in-review-of-road-laws
So they are possibly doing something about climate change.
So they are possibly doing something about climate change.
dutchguylivingintheuk
Veteran
No, they are making more tax revenue..
All uphill
Well-Known Member
That's what they hope to do, I feel sure, but I wonder if they've considered the cost of the bureaucracy to do it?
Bazzer
Well-Known Member
Or the practicalities.
The police seemingly cannot stop the rise in recent years of uninsured drivers, or that of illegal e bikes and e scooters. And the last time I looked, a car was far easier to spot than either a bike or scooter.
dutchguylivingintheuk
Veteran
Like they give two f*cks, by the time that come out it already an other goverment anyway.. they not there for the people but for their own pockets
BoldonLad
Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
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Exactly, yet another clickbait proposal, which will have zero effect, in practice.
winjim
Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis
I don't think they care about tax revenue, I think they've identified an out group they can exploit to win votes. Under a different government I might reject the suggestions as nonsense which will never happen, but with this lot who knows? They might be bonkers enough to try it. They certainly don't mind sinking huge amounts of money into harebrained schemes with little regard for the consequences.
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albion
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You forget this can be a prime example of the benefit of sovereignty gained. There is a lot going on with this goverment
As winjim just said, the demonisation of cyclists might be a facet of populism. If cyclists are not deemed to be 'the people' then obviously they can become just like the usual targets. Stuff like this became more a necessity 2016 onwards.
As winjim just said, the demonisation of cyclists might be a facet of populism. If cyclists are not deemed to be 'the people' then obviously they can become just like the usual targets. Stuff like this became more a necessity 2016 onwards.
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albion
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The other thing to note is that there is a large shortfall of Russian money going into party and member coffers.
I quite imagine insurance companies have suddenly become keen to compete for a possibility of being 'preferred insurer'.
I quite imagine insurance companies have suddenly become keen to compete for a possibility of being 'preferred insurer'.
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