'Commercialising sexuality - son of superman is bisexual'

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I don't go on the forum so asked the person who did, you took it on board to insult me for asking.
Then you call ME a snowflake, not a clue!
I will ask you again. What answer could be given to your question "What did you do to get rape threats?" that doesn't blame the recipient for bringing it on herself?

As for the snowflake comment, I was mocking you for seeming comfortable with rape threats but not with dancing on TV entertainment show.

Are you a fella or a Woman?
What difference do you think it makes here?
 

winjim

Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis
Perfect example, the recent show called Vigil.
Not that good in the end but why make the lead character a Lesbian, following the death of her Husband in a car crash, it added nothing to the story line.

Silent Witness, new Character a Lesbian.

Grantchester, Gay Vicar.
With the caveat that I haven't seen those specific shows, the very obvious response to that question is 'why not?'. Maybe it doesn't add anything to the storyline, but does it take anything away?

I guess when you're constructing a character, part of that is establishing their sexuality. Gay people exist, so gay characters will exist. It might not be essential to the story but so what? I think you seem to be coming from the position that heterosexuality is somehow the default, the 'normal', when of course homosexuality is also perfectly normal and it's just a fact of life that some people are gay.

One good reason for having gay (or other minority) characters, as I think I've mentioned before in this thread is that it gives gay viewers a chance to see themselves in the story. I addressed the issue of disproportionate representation earlier but got no acknowledgement so I'm not sure I've got the energy to go into it too much, but just consider how much TV you have to watch in order to see someone like you on screen, doing something you aspire to do, even if that aspiration is simply getting on with your life and being yourself. Now do the same but imagine yourself as black, or gay, or disabled etc. These people exist and they deserve to see themselves depicted in our art and culture, not only as special cases but as part of society. And maybe by seeing them on television, the rest of us will feel better about making them welcome within that real life society.
 

Rusty Nails

Country Member
What you learned from me then? Your views changed at all?
Have they bollox, you think what you do and I think what I do, I just have the balls to say so and not try and make out "I come on here to learn new things ".
I have learned quite a lot.

The main one being

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Sorry for the gratuitous use of a non-white person in this post, even though he may not be fully representative of the forum population.
 
Perfect example, the recent show called Vigil.
Not that good in the end but why make the lead character a Lesbian, following the death of her Husband in a car crash, it added nothing to the story line.

Silent Witness, new Character a Lesbian.

Grantchester, Gay Vicar.

What's the issue with that?

People like that do exist in real life, maybe not in your tightly controlled bubble.

You don't have to watch it and, tbh, no-one nowadays really cares as I mentioned in response to another post a few days ago. There are way more important things to get worked up about rather than comic book and TV characters.
 

mudsticks

Squire
With the caveat that I haven't seen those specific shows, the very obvious response to that question is 'why not?'. Maybe it doesn't add anything to the storyline, but does it take anything away?

I guess when you're constructing a character, part of that is establishing their sexuality. Gay people exist, so gay characters will exist. It might not be essential to the story but so what? I think you seem to be coming from the position that heterosexuality is somehow the default, the 'normal', when of course homosexuality is also perfectly normal and it's just a fact of life that some people are gay.

One good reason for having gay (or other minority) characters, as I think I've mentioned before in this thread is that it gives gay viewers a chance to see themselves in the story. I addressed the issue of disproportionate representation earlier but got no acknowledgement so I'm not sure I've got the energy to go into it too much, but just consider how much TV you have to watch in order to see someone like you on screen, doing something you aspire to do, even if that aspiration is simply getting on with your life and being yourself. Now do the same but imagine yourself as black, or gay, or disabled etc. These people exist and they deserve to see themselves depicted in our art and culture, not only as special cases but as part of society. And maybe by seeing them on television, the rest of us will feel better about making them welcome within that real life society.

Have some acknowledgement. 👍🏼🌈

I don't think anyone can take issue with what you've said.

But there's a certain type of entrenchment, and wilful ignorance, that's not going to be budged by logic and words here.

Rusty, has pretty much nailed it .
 
How naïve are you?

You genuinely think seeing more and more Gay/Lesbian, Mixed race couples etc on the television makes the people that need 'educating' more tolerant?

I'll let you into a little secret, it doesn't, it makes matters worse.

The more people see of this 'representation' I see the more think 'FFS, more PC sh*t on again'.
Hmm. I can see he was being entirely serious.
 
Anyway, in relation to the OP, SF and fantasy have a great tradition of breaking down social barriers and long may it continue!

The bigots who can't accept a different version of reality to that confined in their pea-brained heads are a dying breed of dinosaurs, but every so often one of them raises their head above the parapets and are challenged and shot down with reasoned discourse, even if they keep stabbing themselves in the face with their outdated views.

It doesn't matter how much of a "rough council estate upbringing" they've had, their views have nothing to do with the reality of the here and now.

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mudsticks

Squire
Anyway, in relation to the OP, SF and fantasy have a great tradition of breaking down social barriers and long may it continue!

The bigots who can't accept a different version of reality to that confined in their pea-brained heads are a dying breed of dinosaurs, but every so often one of them raises their head above the parapets and are challenged and shot down with reasoned discourse, even if they keep stabbing themselves in the face with their outdated views.

It doesn't matter how much of a "rough council estate upbringing" they've had, their views have nothing to do with the reality of the here and now.

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Yup.

Although, it turns out, even some of the dino's are getting in on the act ...

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The bigots who can't accept a different version of reality to that confined in their pea-brained heads are a dying breed of dinosaurs, but every so often one of them raises their head above the parapets and are challenged and shot down with reasoned discourse, even if they keep stabbing themselves in the face with their outdated views.



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On here maybe, but rest assured it's not the likes of me that are a minority.

Who are the people trying to 'fit in' or make people 'aware' ?
 
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