Does anybody here take the Greens seriously?

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AuroraSaab

Pharaoh
Fantasy thinking. Nothing you say is truth. For the sake of other people, can we agree to leave it there?

You inserted yourself into FA's question in order to have a dig at me. Don't get upset when it's pointed out you have no credibility on the truth after outing yourself this morning as very much not-as-dead-as-you-said-you-were.
 

monkers

Shaman
What are you talking about?

Aurora does not have a reputation for truth telling. I accept you may not be aware of that. If you ask her about the Green Party, all you'll get is how much she dislikes trans women.
 

monkers

Shaman
You inserted yourself into FA's question in order to have a dig at me. Don't get upset when it's pointed out you have no credibility on the truth after outing yourself this morning as very much not-as-dead-as-you-said-you-were.

This is tedious nonsense. Please consider other people, and just stop.
 

First Aspect

Veteran
Aurora does not have a reputation for truth telling. I accept you may not be aware of that. If you ask her about the Green Party, all you'll get is how much she dislikes trans women.
Is it okay if I come to that conclusion myself?

What's the "truth" in this instance? That her opinion is her opinion, or something in that opinion?
 

Shortfall

Regular
This is tedious nonsense. Please consider other people, and just stop.

To be fair if what Aurora says about the use of your account is true then it's not tedious nonsense, it actually strikes at the heart of the rules of the forum. I'm late to the Trans debate on here, but based on what I have seen of her contributions on a variety of subjects, Aurora is articulate, reasoned and a good debater. This against a fair bit of hostility to her viewpoints and some quite nasty insults I might add.
 

monkers

Shaman
Is it okay if I come to that conclusion myself?

What's the "truth" in this instance? That her opinion is her opinion, or something in that opinion?

It's fine if you come to that conclusion yourself. It was you that said you'd rather know about the Green Party from Aurora than from the Green Party themselves. Why would you prefer a potentially biased view than hear it from the horse's mouth? But do what you want to do, you don't need anyone's permission.
 

Rusty Nails

Country Member
To be fair if what Aurora says about the use of your account is true then it's not tedious nonsense, it actually strikes at the heart of the rules of the forum. I'm late to the Trans debate on here, but based on what I have seen of her contributions on a variety of subjects, Aurora is articulate, reasoned and a good debater. This against a fair bit of hostility to her viewpoints and some quite nasty insults I might add.

“If” is doing a huge amount of lifting in this post.

There is no onus on Monkers to prove that her aunt died, the onus to prove anything is on those who accuse her of making it all up.
 
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monkers

Shaman
To be fair if what Aurora says about the use of your account is true then it's not tedious nonsense, it actually strikes at the heart of the rules of the forum. I'm late to the Trans debate on here, but based on what I have seen of her contributions on a variety of subjects, Aurora is articulate, reasoned and a good debater. This against a fair bit of hostility to her viewpoints and some quite nasty insults I might add.

I disagree with your appraisal of Aurora. And what does it matter about the name on this account. My name is no more monkers than yours is shortfall - these are mere avatars.
 

First Aspect

Veteran
It's fine if you come to that conclusion yourself. It was you that said you'd rather know about the Green Party from Aurora than from the Green Party themselves. Why would you prefer a potentially biased view than hear it from the horse's mouth? But do what you want to do, you don't need anyone's permission.
I asked someone's opinion, but not about the Green party. I was already aware of most of what is on the link you posted, because of the Bute House agreement in Scotland, that put them in ministerial roles.

This broke down and left me withoutout the option to drive to my nearest large shop 7 miles away to post plastic bottles into a recycler and thereby reclaim 15 pence. That's a shame because it would have been a regular opportunity to get petrol for the car in would need to use.

(Look up the fiasco about 1990s recycling policies proposed for Scotland (which is disproportionately rural) recycled from 1990s Vancouver if you want to know what I'm on about there. It is another can't take them seriously policy.)
 

monkers

Shaman
I asked someone's opinion, but not about the Green party. I was already aware of most of what is on the link you posted, because of the Bute House agreement in Scotland, that put them in ministerial roles.

This broke down and left me withoutout the option to drive to my nearest large shop 7 miles away to post plastic bottles into a recycler and thereby reclaim 15 pence. That's a shame because it would have been a regular opportunity to get petrol for the car in would need to use.

(Look up the fiasco about 1990s recycling policies proposed for Scotland (which is disproportionately rural) recycled from 1990s Vancouver if you want to know what I'm on about there. It is another can't take them seriously policy.)

Perhaps we are talking at cross purposes? However I think we can agree the matter is trivial and it really isn't necessary to continue.
 

monkers

Shaman
“If” is doing a huge amount of lifting in this post.

There is no onus on Monkers to prove that her aunt died, the onus to prove anything is on those who accuse her of making it all up.

Would anything change in relation to the thread? I will say it wouldn't.

As a person who has stated her trans history, I know their contempt will stay the same across any and all threads.

The lesson is that when a trans person states their identity they become a target. What more evidence needed than these pages?
 
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AuroraSaab

Pharaoh
“If” is doing a huge amount of lifting in this post.

There is no onus on Monkers to prove that her aunt died, the onus to prove anything is on those who accuse her of making it all up.

That would involve doxxing, which I am opposed to even for people who repeatedly call me a c#nt.
 

Shortfall

Regular
I disagree with your appraisal of Aurora. And what does it matter about the name on this account. My name is no more monkers than yours is shortfall - these are mere avatars.

I'm happy for you to have a different opinion on Aurora as clearly you have history and I'm not party to everything that's gone on. On the other point, if she is right that you are actually an established poster who created a story about having died and then a fictitious niece taking over the account and the giving said niece a disturbing back story, then that is pretty sinister stuff and it's also against the rules of the forum . The rules exist for a reason and sock puppet accounts fan skew the debate. This is why forums like this deal robustly with BOTS . Yes we're all Avatars posting under pseudonyms, but there are good reasons why people maintain their anonymity on public forums, particularly if their employers have a social media policy that they might fall foul of.
 
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AuroraSaab

Pharaoh
To be fair if what Aurora says about the use of your account is true then it's not tedious nonsense, it actually strikes at the heart of the rules of the forum. I'm late to the Trans debate on here, but based on what I have seen of her contributions on a variety of subjects, Aurora is articulate, reasoned and a good debater. This against a fair bit of hostility to her viewpoints and some quite nasty insults I might add.

You likely missed the dumpster fire that this forum became when the grit bin raver was here. Funnily enough none of the posters who complain about me had the courage to tell him to take it down a notch.

As I've said before, the arguments stand on their own merits regardless of who makes them. I am tired of the appeal to the authority of imaginary friends though, which some swallow hook, line, and sinker.
 
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