Does anybody here take the Greens seriously?

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Pblakeney

Veteran
Diesel X Sweat by Jason Statham.

The new vape for the manliest of men.

Would that not have been “by Vin Diesel”?
 

First Aspect

Veteran
I think they might be close already - Fire Water (Bourbon) and Gran Larceny (Tobacco and Bourbon flavour). Jagerbomb Vape, Absinthe Vape for the bohemian,

Or for the lads - Curry Flavour Vape.

Is the absinthe one laced with opium? If so it's tempting.
 

Shortfall

Regular
I'll admit to being torn by this. Theoretically I think all drugs should be legal, too; this despite being a pretty boring person, pharmacologically speaking.

As for beard of the year, wasn't Peter Murrell in the running in times past?

See also Lady Starmer.
 

CXRAndy

Shaman
Planksi will withdraw from Nato if he was in power.

Keep going
 

monkers

Shaman
Planksi will withdraw from Nato if he was in power.

Keep going

Incorrect. Polanski can do no such thing on his own even if he became PM. He MUST follow the policy made by members or he is out.

Green Party policy is not to leave NATO. To quote directly from their policy ...

PSD317 The Green Party recognises that NATO has an important role in ensuring the ability of its member states to respond to threats to their security. The Green Party supports the principle of international solidarity, whereby nations support one another through mutual defence alliances and multilateral security frameworks.
 

matticus

Legendary Member
Incorrect. Polanski can do no such thing on his own even if he became PM. He MUST follow the policy made by members or he is out.

Green Party policy is not to leave NATO. To quote directly from their policy ...

PSD317 The Green Party recognises that NATO has an important role in ensuring the ability of its member states to respond to threats to their security. The Green Party supports the principle of international solidarity, whereby nations support one another through mutual defence alliances and multilateral security frameworks.

As an aside: was this the subject of a motion at the Bournemouth conference? If so, where can I find the vote results?
 

monkers

Shaman
As an aside: was this the subject of a motion at the Bournemouth conference? If so, where can I find the vote results?

I don't know - sorry to disappoint. I'm busy working, but later I'll try to find out.

Update: it happened at the Spring 2023 conference in Brighton. I've just seen one source say the vote was won at 55%, but I haven't confirmed that.
 
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matticus

Legendary Member
I don't know - sorry to disappoint. I'm busy working, but later I'll try to find out.

Update: it happened at the Spring 2023 conference in Brighton. I've just seen one source say the vote was won at 55%, but I haven't confirmed that.

Aha - thanks. I headed down the wrong cul-de-sac ... Now found this report:

https://bright-green.org/2023/03/12/green-party-abandons-opposition-to-nato/
Members of the Green Party of England and Wales have voted to abandon their longstanding position on NATO. Prior to the vote, the party’s policy stated that NATO is “not a sustainable mechanism for maintaining peace in the world”, and said that the Green Party “would take the UK out of NATO”.

The vote took place at the Greens’ spring conference. In a major about turn, the newly written policy now reads: “NATO has an important role in ensuring the ability of its member states to respond to threats to their security”. It goes on to call for NATO to guarantee a no first use policy on nuclear weapons, commit to upholding human rights in NATO’s actions and to act “solely in defence of member states”.

The change in the position on NATO was part of a wider rewrite of the party’s policies on peace, security and defence. By ditching their commitment to leaving NATO, the Greens in England and Wales now differ in their approach to the Greens in Scotland. The Scottish Green Party has retained its opposition to NATO, despite substantially revising its defence policies in recent years.

Following the passing of the motion, a Green Party spokesperson said: “Russia’s war on Ukraine has underscored the fears of other neighbours that their territorial integrity and independence is under threat. Conference showed the party’s commitment to international solidarity, where nations support one another through mutual defence alliances and multilateral security frameworks.

“Conference’s support for this motion does not mean a direct role for NATO in Ukraine. We do not support an escalation of the crisis there. But it does mean that NATO has an important role in ensuring the ability of its member states to respond to threats to their security.

“However, diplomacy and practical cooperation must always take precedence over military action. That is why we seek crucial reforms to the way NATO operates. Of course, as conference recognised today, other security arrangements may be considered should such reforms become unattainable.”
 

CXRAndy

Shaman
Seems to be a bad idea to print more money instead of borrowing.

Inflation, currency devaluation, wealth redistribution from savers/pension holders, lack of fiscal boundaries and economic instability
 
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