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UglyWithaSidePart
Regular
Greens won in Aigburth (Liverpool) yesterday.
UglyWithaSidePart
Regular
By the way, the REFUK candidate has tried before as Green, then Conservative and now REFUK. Nobody likes him 😂
briantrumpet
Timewaster
I think that one might have been on a turn-out of 26%. It's nonsense trying to make much out of these things, though I suppose if one wants to draw comfort it's that the not-right-wing-loons vote is over 90%.
UglyWithaSidePart
Regular
42% turnout
briantrumpet
Timewaster
OK, thanks. There were a few yesterday.
Ian H
Shaman
Populism’s power resides in its malleability. But whatever the similarities in style, mode and mood between the left and right varieties of populism, it remains crucial to distinguish between them. As Jan-Werner Müller argues, the left-wing version targets enemies who are above the people: bankers, oligarchs, corporations, corrupt officials. Right-wing populism can also have some enemies above (such as cultural elites), but it focuses on enemies below: immigrants, minorities and ‘others’ of various kinds.
[Jefferson Cowie, LRB]
[Jefferson Cowie, LRB]
AuroraSaab
Pharaoh
So left wing populism punches up at the privileged? Right wing populism punches down?
That's not really true with Zac Polanski's Green Party policies though.
Decriminalising prostitution and legalising brothels will only further exploit vulnerable women and lead to more trafficking of women and girls. It's awful for those who live in red light areas too, which are usually poor areas.
It benefits men who buy sex, and enriches pimps and traffickers; hardly punching up.
Allowing ghb, the drink spiking/date rape drug, to be bought for personal use is hardly punching up either. It'll be used to subjugate others. You can't control how it's used once it's bought. The chances of it just being used recreationally by the buyer alone is slim.
His plan to give trans identifying men access to all women's spaces, services, and facilities, is the opposite of punching up. It's punching down on women and girls.
Doing away with all prison sentences under 2 years and 'restorative justice' is going to leave some violent offenders with not much more than a criminal record as punishment. It punches down on victims.
Left wing populism mostly benefits the middle classes. That's why it's popular.
They get to pretend to be liberal and progressive but don't have to shoulder the negative results.
That's not really true with Zac Polanski's Green Party policies though.
Decriminalising prostitution and legalising brothels will only further exploit vulnerable women and lead to more trafficking of women and girls. It's awful for those who live in red light areas too, which are usually poor areas.
It benefits men who buy sex, and enriches pimps and traffickers; hardly punching up.
Allowing ghb, the drink spiking/date rape drug, to be bought for personal use is hardly punching up either. It'll be used to subjugate others. You can't control how it's used once it's bought. The chances of it just being used recreationally by the buyer alone is slim.
His plan to give trans identifying men access to all women's spaces, services, and facilities, is the opposite of punching up. It's punching down on women and girls.
Doing away with all prison sentences under 2 years and 'restorative justice' is going to leave some violent offenders with not much more than a criminal record as punishment. It punches down on victims.
Left wing populism mostly benefits the middle classes. That's why it's popular.
They get to pretend to be liberal and progressive but don't have to shoulder the negative results.
briantrumpet
Timewaster
Must admit (trying to be non-judgemental) that it's hard sometimes not to be reminded of the thread title, given the choice of clothes and photo.
First Aspect
Legendary Member
Is there any topic that you don't view through the prism of women's rights?
Look, the policy on trans rights issues, for right or for wrong, appear now to be in conflict with UK law.
Legalising brothels and decriminalisong prostitution is analogous to their policy on drugs - it's going to happen anyway, so why not facilitate it happening safely.
Regardless of whether you agree, it's not without logical basis. Nor unprecedented in other countries.
It also does not seem to me to undermine the general thesis on populism that you were ostensibly commenting on.
Look, the policy on trans rights issues, for right or for wrong, appear now to be in conflict with UK law.
Legalising brothels and decriminalisong prostitution is analogous to their policy on drugs - it's going to happen anyway, so why not facilitate it happening safely.
Regardless of whether you agree, it's not without logical basis. Nor unprecedented in other countries.
It also does not seem to me to undermine the general thesis on populism that you were ostensibly commenting on.
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First Aspect
Legendary Member
Timmy Mallet is ageing well.
AndyRM
Elder Goth
Bit much together, but one or the other with a solid block colour would be absolutely fine.
If nothing else it's more interesting than a suit with a party coloured tie.
