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Will we see the Vatican being invaded by 'patriots'?
Donald I, emperor of the world.
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Will we see the Vatican being invaded by 'patriots'?
MAGA have already taken a dislike to the new Pope. Laura Loomer complaining that the new pope ‘is anti-Trump, anti-MAGA, pro-open Borders, and a total Marxist like Pope Francis,’ and thta it’s ‘GROSS’ that he now leads the Catholic Church. Bannon (Catholic himself) being pretty critical, etc., etc.
Ian
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This does present the GOP with significant issues. It's a potential Beatles more popular than God situation. Turns out they weren't.
Beebo
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The conclave are the only electorate in the world that hasn’t been infected by right wing populists.
Even though they are all sexually frustrated middle aged men
BoldonLad
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Average age 70yo, middle aged? There is hope! 😂
How do you know they are sexually frustrated. Priests have never been known to break the celibacy rule.
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Most of them have never had consentual sex with other adults.
BoldonLad
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I would not bet on that!
First Aspect
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I said consensual and adults for a reason.
Ian H
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Frédéric Martel, a French journalist, published In the Closet of the Vatican: Power, Homosexuality, Hypocrisy. (In French, and indeed Polish, the book’s title is Sodoma.) The many people Martel interviewed for the book in thirty countries included 41 cardinals, 52 bishops and monsignori, and 45 apostolic nuncios. Christopher Lamb, the Tablet’s Rome correspondent, called it ‘a huge operation, funded by a consortium of publishers, and aimed at revealing church hypocrisy on gay issues ... The publishers decided to release the book on 21 February 2019, the day of the Vatican summit on clerical sex abuse, thus seeking to capitalise on media attention on the church and sex.’ Ivereigh called the book ‘gossipy, rambling, cavalier with sources, and because of Martel’s off-the-scale “gaydar” and his scorn for celibacy, easy for Vatican officials to dismiss. Yet many of his eye-popping stories could not be disputed.’ Martel, Ivereigh concludes, ‘showed what many knew, that “lace by day, leather by night” was part of clerical culture ... The hypocrisy had mushroomed above all under John Paul II, whom conservative Catholics lionised for his moral clarity.’ Among the book’s early admirers was Steve Bannon, who wanted to acquire movie rights.
https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v43/n02/colm-toibin/the-bergoglio-smile (you might get a free article without subscribing).
https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v43/n02/colm-toibin/the-bergoglio-smile (you might get a free article without subscribing).
BoldonLad
Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
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I still would not bet on it. I know my small sample is not statistically significant but….
In the past 37 years of being married to a Catholic, I have encountered 3 priests who had “secret” heterosexual relationships, and that, clearly, is just the ones who got “caught”. I am not a Catholic by the way.
