Donald I, emperor of the world.

[Pblakeney]

Because voting Labour and Conservative worked out so well for them.
It will be worth revisiting this thread in a couple of years time. It's easy to sneer at the "thickos who saw their jobs in engineering and manufacturing wiped out and sent offshore and who then saw whatever incomes they then ended up with being undercut by cheap labour from a massive influx of migrant workers. I wonder which political party will speak up for the soon to be unemployed middle class professional types who hang out on cycling forums when the AI revolution has really taken hold and wiped out swathes of well paid white collar jobs?

I hope people are taking this future issue seriously, if quietly.
If your job is currently computer based then your job is at risk.

 

[Shortfall]

I hope people are taking this future issue seriously, if quietly.
If your job is currently computer based then your job is at risk.

I am in the fortunate position of being semi retired and I choose to supplement my retirement income by working in a sector not threatened by AI. From what I I understand, there are a lot of people who are currently paying higher rate income tax whose jobs will cease to exist in the not too distant future. Unless they have already planned for this they will find themselves in the same boat that a lot of Reform voters currently find themselves in. I mean they might not be as thick and racist (not my description) but that won't help them.

 

[All uphill]

I know two well-paid friends in their early thirties who spend their working hours at keyboards.

One is living as if nothing will ever change, taking on lots of debt, living the dream. Unwilling to even hear about future risks.

The other is overpaying their mortgage, doing voluntary work in the social sector and grabbing as much company training as possible.

My perception is that the second one is happier.

 

[BoldonLad]

Unfortunately, the same demographic has already given Boris a punt. You know what they say about the definition of stupidity, it is doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome.

I didn't say it was sensible, or that it would work, I was suggesting the Reform "thing" is a bit more complicated than elderly gammons sliding to the right, which seems to be a frequent assumption on here.

 

[BoldonLad]

It’s the red wall, working class traditional Labour voters, who have been abandoned by the middle class woke Labour Party.
Lee Anderson is a typical example. Former Labour politicians.
But Labour are caught between trying to keep them happy whilst also keeping their left wing factions happy too. It’s an impossible conundrum.

Quite

 

[orraloon]

Thing is, 30p Lee is just a prick.

 

[CXRAndy]

Anyone want a lefty news network, several to choose from.

Viewing figures reveal they're tanking in popularity

Told ya Legacy media is dying

The most recent daily viewership figures for MSNBC and CNN, based on available data from Q2 2025, are as follows:

MSNBC: Averaged 596,000 viewers per day in total day viewership. In primetime, MSNBC had approximately 1 million viewers, with 91,000 in the 25-54 demographic.

CNN: Averaged 406,000 viewers per day in total day viewership. In primetime, CNN had approximately 538,000 viewers, with 105,000 in the 25-54 demographic.

Declines Over Time: Both networks have seen significant declines since their peaks. By 2025, MSNBC’s primetime viewership dropped to 1 million and total day to 596,000, while CNN’s primetime fell to 538,000 and total day to 406,000, reflecting a broader shift to streaming and digital platforms.

𝕏 got 8.2 billion video views per day in Q2 2024

 

[AndyRM]

I figured you were going to end that with something relevant like Fox maintaining a strong showing, but nope, Twitter.

 

[Dorset Boy]

He's comparing chalk and pears

 

[CXRAndy]

He's comparing chalk and pears

I'm comparing legacy V online socials. Nobody, well very few are now watching news feeds from TV.

Socials are keeping the likes of CNN alive by clipping articles from them. As a platform they're Dooomed!

 

[Pinno718]

OT.

Hegseth in Congress grilled by Senator Blumenthal.

[Back ground]
Hegseth took control of an organisation called 'Veterans for freedom' in 2007.
He raised $8.7m but the following year spent $9m.
In 2009, he told donors that there was less than $1000 in the bank account and debts of $434k.
By 2010, revenue had dropped to less than $250k...
Now, organisations who run on donations and don't raise enough money year on year can recover but what was telling about the details of the expenditure was that the monies were used for 'political profiling'. Basically, Hegseth was using it to further his own political profile.

Ahead of the hearing, Blumenthal requested numerous documents and tax returns from various organisations including the FBI but was only furnished with the tax returns to which Hegseth had his signature on.

In 2011, Hegseth was ousted and Veterans for Freedom had to merge with Military Families United in order to survive.
Hegseth then joined as an executive director of Concerned Veterans of America (People's Front of Judea?)

For the following 5 years, the organisation had a running deficit on 4 of them. In amongst the over spend was $75k of credit card debt

Hegseth left Concerned Veterans for America in January 2016 after issues regarding his mismanagement and alcoholism.

The dept. of defence budget for 2025 is $850bn.

 

[briantrumpet]

Hegseth is merely a pustule on Trump's sweaty arse.

 

[briantrumpet]

Who to believe?

 

[Pblakeney]

Who to believe?

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Not Trump.

 

[Pinno718]

Who to believe?

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Prior to the public Whitehouse Epstein file release fiasco, Pam Bondi was asked on Fox News about whether the client list was going to be released. She replied "It's on my desk" [+ bollox]. She never once said there was no client list.