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Pinno718

Veteran
No.

And there weren't at the Olympic ceremonies either.

What's the MAGA shagger spouting?
 

Psamathe

Guru
Tiptoe around a compulsive liar, leap at every opportunity to kiss the ring of a narcissist, pour on endless flattery whilst they side with your adversaries and you'll be thrown a few scraps and ignored. Contrary to Starmer's PR team to me this isn't "diplomacy" but just demeaning your country through ineffective sycophancy.
 

Rusty Nails

Country Member
Tiptoe around a compulsive liar, leap at every opportunity to kiss the ring of a narcissist, pour on endless flattery whilst they side with your adversaries and you'll be thrown a few scraps and ignored. Contrary to Starmer's PR team to me this isn't "diplomacy" but just demeaning your country through ineffective sycophancy.

Unless the UK and most EU countries are prepared to put a lot more money into defence/NATO (and real/new money not just looking for technicalities to include stuff in defence spending) they have no option other than to suck up to Trump.

Stump up or suck up!
 

BoldonLad

Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
Location
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Unless the UK and most EU countries are prepared to put a lot more money into defence/NATO (and real/new money not just looking for technicalities to include stuff in defence spending) they have no option other than to suck up to Trump.

Stump up or suck up!

Personally, I think it would take more than "defence" spending, it would also be necessary to convince Putin that we (UK and EU) are actually willing to USE their new toys.

Not that I wish to see that situation develop.
 
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Unless the UK and most EU countries are prepared to put a lot more money into defence/NATO (and real/new money not just looking for technicalities to include stuff in defence spending) they have no option other than to suck up to Trump.

Stump up or suck up!

As Donnie has already ordered them to do so even sucking up won't work. You have to suck up and cough up. Then cough up more.
Question is, once everyone has coughed up do they need the (unreliable ally) US?

I suspect that they won't cough up and are waiting to see who's next in the presidential seat and incur their wrath.
 
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Psamathe

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Unless the UK and most EU countries are prepared to put a lot more money into defence/NATO (and real/new money not just looking for technicalities to include stuff in defence spending) they have no option other than to suck up to Trump.

Stump up or suck up!
So far sucking up with lots of sycophancy seems to have done little other than made us irrelevant to US wishes. And now US is discarding its allies and siding with our adversary.

So does anybody think more kissing the ring with unlimited flattery is going to achieve a different outcome?
 
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AndyRM

Elder Goth
What's the MAGA shagger spouting?

Irrelevancies.

Unblock him if you want to find out.
 
No.
It should be remembered that "America first" comes with the silent addendum, fück the rest.

The irony being they are going to fuck it up for the US too. If he thinks that mimicking Russia is a good move, he ought to see what their GDP is. Mind you, if he's just looking at what wealth oligarchs can amass in Russia, then the Trump family might come out of it OK, while the rest of the US population is fucked. In that case, they might want to consider was happened to Tsar Nicholas II and his family.
 
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The irony being they are going to fuck it up for the US too. If he thinks that mimicking Russia is a good move, he ought to see what their GDP is. Mind you, if he's just looking at what wealth oligarchs can amass in Russia, then the Trump family might come out of it OK, while the rest of the US population is fucked. In that case, they might want to consider was happened to Tsar Nicholas II and his family.

There's a lot of thinking going on there. Not his strong point.
 

Rusty Nails

Country Member
So far sucking up with lots of sycophancy seems to have done little other than made us irrelevant to US wishes. And now US is discarding its allies and siding with our adversary.

So does anybody think more kissing the ring with unlimited flattery is going to achieve a different outcome?

So stump up it is.

How's that going, and how quickly?
 
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He has a few basic algorithms:

mobster extortion (people, states, countries)
spotting where he can personally enrich himself
abusing young blond women (the younger the better)
insulting people who don't suck up to him

None of those really involve thinking, just base instincts.

To put it simply "Want that one!".

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