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Donald I, emperor of the world.
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Bazzer
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China imposes tariffs on various food items from the US.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/04/economy/trade-mexico-canada-china-tariffs-trump-hnk-intl/index.html
US farmers must be getting more than a bit twitchy. After all, there is only so much food even Americans can eat, and it is barely a few days after the overweight rapist fat shamed his countrymen
https://www.thedailybeast.com/bloated-fat-and-disgusting-trump-insults-all-americans/
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/04/economy/trade-mexico-canada-china-tariffs-trump-hnk-intl/index.html
US farmers must be getting more than a bit twitchy. After all, there is only so much food even Americans can eat, and it is barely a few days after the overweight rapist fat shamed his countrymen
https://www.thedailybeast.com/bloated-fat-and-disgusting-trump-insults-all-americans/
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Ooh, it can find things on the Internet other than misinformation bolöcks.
Rusty Nails
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Federal statistics show US border authorities seized 21,889 pounds of fentanyl in the 2024 fiscal year. Of that amount, 43 pounds were seized at the Canadian border — about 0.2% — compared with 21,148 pounds at the Mexican border, about 96.6%.
In fiscal year 2024 (October 2023 to September 2024), the number of U.S. Border Patrol (USBP) encounters at America’s northern border with Canada was nearly 200,000. Those at the U.S. border with Mexico, meanwhile, were 2.1 million. . Canada has recently, in response to comments by Trump, set up a huge prevention programme along its border with the US, which is starting to significantly reduce this figure even further.
it is clear the Trump uses the last two reasons you gave as a pretext for his real motivation, which is to eventually force Canada to become part of the US via financial pressure. In his comments tonight he even insultingly and crassly refers to PM Trudeau as Governor Trudeau of Canada.
I do not usually like much of what Andrew Neil writes but I have to agree with his column today, even though I hope he is wrong:
"America is in the grip of an isolationist world view under Trump-Vance-Musk, and much more than just Ukraine is at stake. In Trump’s Orwellian realpolitik, China gets to dominate much of the Pacific, Russia dominates Europe, especially the east, and the US reigns supreme across the Americas, including Canada and Mexico.
Not so much brave new world as a return to a brutal old world of power politics and might is right.
It is not a world in which Britain, or the continent of which we’re a part, is likely to stay free and prosper.
So the stark reality is this: either Europe gets its act together, or it withers and dies. I suspect Starmer, in his new role as budding apprentice statesman, already understands that"
Sorry I couldn't put all this in a tweet or meme, but I thought it might give you a bit more opportunity to praise Trump's infallibility.
stowie
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Canada seems to have realised it has a choice. Constant short deferments of tariffs by accepting Trump's various demands or acceptance this is going to hurt badly at some stage as Trump has no intention of not placing tariffs but is just seeing what he can get before doing so. Mexico and Canada came to an agreement 30 days ago and they are the same situation again.
Canada is not the senior partner in the relationship. So it has to make sure it is rallying its population to its actions (seems to be working, US doesn't appear very popular) and target tariffs and bans that will strategically hurt - alcohol sales from companies based in red states, energy flow and key raw materials for US industry also in red states. Try to get Trump's base to exert pressure.
The irony is that the balance of trade US-Canada is skewed because of the energy exports of Canada, which tends to be raw commodity that is refined and used or re-exported by the US. So the US is actually adding value in the chain. Canada is already planning to do more refining because of Trumps actions and this won't change. Balance of trade will shift to the US but they won't be any wealthier for it.
I think Trump (or at least his MAGA power brokers who might know what strategy is) have a gameplan. Trump is seeing what he can squeeze before putting down the hammer. Or at least this seems to be Canada's opinion.
Mexico is another story. Cut off economic trade with Mexico and the country could start to struggle. Anyone with an ounce of sense would know that Mexico struggling isn't going to enhance security and co-operation - it is giving criminal cartels more power with a weaker state. Plus all that stuff that is made in Mexico won't magically get made in the US tomorrow. It takes time and in the meantime 25% has just been added to consumer cost.
It doesn't make much sense, but I don't expect it is meant to. We are witnessing a huge money grab from the richest in the US and the big question is whether those MAGA voters that put him in power will allow it. I suspect it will be too late before they realise the agenda - already they seem confused about federal job cuts (hitting red states more than blue) and benefit changes (ditto). There is no confusion. This is the plan.
AndyRM
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The whole fentanyl thing is just another war on drugs that the USA cannot win, but will spend untold billions trying to.
It's kind of ironic that their healthcare system is so f*cked that people can't afford basic prescriptions, but the government will spunk so much on an unwinnable battle because of moral hysteria.
It's kind of ironic that their healthcare system is so f*cked that people can't afford basic prescriptions, but the government will spunk so much on an unwinnable battle because of moral hysteria.
AndyRM
Elder Goth
I'd missed this in amongst all his other nonsense.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/22/realestate/trump-brutalist-architecture.html
Trump not liking Brutalism is hardly a surprise, given what it represents.
And yes, I'm going to invoke Godwin's Law here, but you know who else wasn't a fan? Hitler.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/22/realestate/trump-brutalist-architecture.html
Trump not liking Brutalism is hardly a surprise, given what it represents.
And yes, I'm going to invoke Godwin's Law here, but you know who else wasn't a fan? Hitler.
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Godwin himself has said that his law doesn't apply when discussing actual Nazis.
Rusty Nails
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As usual you show a complete inability to comprehend any argument that doesn’t fit your limited views or which requires more thought than a meme from a similarly blinkered mind.
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Free speech defenders
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2025/03/04/i-thought-they-were-free-speech-absolutists/
TL;DR Trump openly threatening students who get involved in protests.
As I said in the post that started the thread, are you scared yet?
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2025/03/04/i-thought-they-were-free-speech-absolutists/
TL;DR Trump openly threatening students who get involved in protests.
As I said in the post that started the thread, are you scared yet?
icowden
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The difference is that the southern border is where high volume smuggling of fentanyl occurs. On the other hand the Fentanyl coming over the border with Canada on the other hand is confiscated from Americans who have been to a dodgy supplier to get their Fentanyl. In 2022 98 kg were seized at the Mexican border compared to 2kg at the Canadian border.
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Illegal is what they want to be illegal. Plenty of videos in youtube of people being removed from public meetings for asking questions that make the MAGAts uncomfortable.
Or maybe you're being sarcastic.
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