Pinno718
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Aah that must be whom they are referring to. I must brush up on my Welsh history.
Donald I, emperor of the world.
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Aah that must be whom they are referring to. I must brush up on my Welsh history.
AuroraSaab
Shaman
Yes, that sounds both extreme and hateful. Should people apply it to other movements or opinions they find just as unpalatable? Shoot UK Muslims who favour Shariah law because fundamentalist Islam isn't very nice? Kill Zionist Jews in the UK because they support Netanyahu?
Murdering people whose views we don't like is exactly the kind of bat sh*t authoritarianism you seem to be claiming to be against. We live in democracies where we can vote out those we don't like, yet here you are inciting the murder of people you disagree with - decided on the basis of wearing a hat. Surely you can see that's completely nuts?
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Pinno718
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Okay, inform them of the opposing view. Good luck.
In 1930's Germany, if Jews had the power to counter the rise of fascism they would have. They would have needed force. Had they done so successfully or not (just like the French resistance), they would be viewed in history as heroic.
I know what you are saying and the argument you present holds water but do you not see this rise in fascism in the USA in very similar vein? Do you not think the deportations of ethnic people (who have their head shaved) by the bus load load and moved into detention centres with no legal reason is a parallel act in no way removed from the acts of the 3rd Reich? The US is not living in 'normal times' currently. The whole fabric of democracy, agencies, constitution and judiciary is under threat. It is being destroyed or is under threat using coercion, propaganda, lies spin and fundamentally intolerance.
It will be too late if in say a year (before the mid terms Nov 26) or even less (if people do not act now) that Trump may achieve totalitarianism. When that happens, every ethnic group including people who simply oppose Trump and the insidious project 2025 could be potentially incarcerated. When the incarceration becomes over populated, what then? Executions for being WOKE or anti state or perhaps simply being a POC (as they say in the US).
I think that the body politic of MAGA voters - the one's who voted in good faith are gullible, stupid and oblivious to the what's being done to their country. They are complicit in their own destruction so knocking their hats off in the context of what I think ^ is benign in comparison to the very real prospect of a fascist state governed by very powerful billionaires intent on their own promotion. Nothing less as nothing they have done thus far nor what they intend to do is egalitarian, democratic, fair, warranted or justified.
I could foresee, the end of fair and democratic elections in the USA. The 3rd Reich intimidated and forcibly removed any opposition. The intentions of the Trumpists (for want of a better noun) is no different.
'Shooting them' is an off the cuff remark fuelled by my resentment towards ignorance. Don't take it too literally but do not forget the insurrectionists - all white, all belonging to far right extremist groups, 'The proud boys', the 'Boogaloo Boys', the KKK etc. Fuelled by enough rhetoric and propaganda, stirred by the purveyors of the power hungry fascists, they could be mobilised, take to arms and assist in a move towards that totalitarianism. Imagine that? They are all deeply rooted in 'God and country'. They are all lead by former veterans. They know how to fight a war. They are all disenfranchised, angry people more than capable of ethnic cleansing. Their views are intolerable. I can point you towards a documentary if you like.
However, the optimist in me still believes that the regime (it is nothing else) will implode before then but it is insufficient to simply stand back and hope that it will.
AuroraSaab
Shaman
I don't think the Republicans winning the election is like 1930's Hitler's Germany, no. The idea that in a year the Republicans are going to be shooting African Americans for being black also seems a bit of a stretch.
CXRAndy
Veteran
Playing the race card instead of seeing illegal criminals in a country they are not supposed to in.
Trump campaigned exactly on this point voted in
USA didn't shave their heads El Salvador prison service did it
CXRAndy
Veteran
What single voting day, watermarked paper ballots. All residents have to present ID at voting points
Sounds like hysteria
CXRAndy
Veteran
They are removing the federal department of education, passing the vast administrative cost savings back to state level.
USA has some of the worst level of education for the western world. The department of education obviously not fit for purpose
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C R
Veteran
You are deluding yourself.
All uphill
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I think it's an interesting and important argument that is no longer academic in the US.
Do they choose to act outside the law now and give the magas an excuse to "defend the US" or wait like the frog in the hot water for the "right" moment?
My guess is that most Americans want to get on with their lives and will make their feelings known in the mid terms.
Do they choose to act outside the law now and give the magas an excuse to "defend the US" or wait like the frog in the hot water for the "right" moment?
My guess is that most Americans want to get on with their lives and will make their feelings known in the mid terms.
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C R
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They may not get the chance to vote in the midterms.
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