Donald I, emperor of the world.

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Pinno718

Active Member
The illegal immigration was costing hundreds of millions in housing, benefits fraud. Then there was huge problems of violence, rape, murders from these completely undocumented males apparently, if you are stupid enough to believe that, despite the evidence which was provided by Pinno to the contrary*.

Less well off get no tax on tips(tips are big part of low earners income), no tax on overtime but millionaires and billionaires get huge tax breaks which dwarf those concessions on tips and overtime by X%... you do the 'math', if you have enough space for the noughts on your screen. On the broader economic stage, tariffs are already effecting businesses, the dollar is in steep decline and the economy is set for a recession when under Biden, it was +3.7% forecast growth, so there will be less employment. Therefore, overtime is somewhat negated. With so many new deals (actually 1) on the table, despite blanket tariffs to 'over 200 nations' (said Trump who cannot count), of course the economy will experience some hardship but this will be a minor bump in the road before the sink hole is reached and the economy descends down into it.

*Medicaid is for US citizens not illegal immigrants but after November 2026, 16m US citizens won't have access to it. Fact check: https://www.factcheck.org/2025/05/a-false-claim-about-illegal-immigration-and-medicaid/ rather than opinion based bollox is better to present any argument.

FTBFY
 

CXRAndy

Legendary Member
Having a go at wealth makers, you know that doesn't work out well for countries erm look at UK for example.

Billionaires create work, money for populations
 

Pinno718

Active Member
Having a go at wealth makers, you know that doesn't work out well for countries erm look at UK for example.

Billionaires create work, money for populations but simultaneously conveniently create the narrative that upholds the flawed principle of the trickle down effect. Taxing billionaires a few percent makes a huge difference to the bottom earning percentile and revenue pot that without fiscally set taxation, has no guarantee of reaching them/it. Billionaires expecting a tax income rise of say 2.5% will not suffer any loss of standard of living and will not emigrate and will not take their wealth elsewhere as most of it is already 'elsewhere' in tax avoidance schemes and off shore bank accounts/business subsidiaries etc. Most millionaires/billionaires benefit from exploiting legal loopholes in the first instance and any 'tax' rises tend not to affect them as much as people would think they would as tax laws on foreign assets of often unknown quantity remain untouched such is the imbalance of international tax law. A more egalitarian approach would raise income tax for the top earners much more in order to mitigate and reconcile the unpaid tax through avoidance schemes. The countries in the world (Sweden, Denmark, Norway for example) that pay the highest tax rates collectively enjoy the highest standards of living, equality, healthcare and infrastructure spending. In the USA, there's a significant disparity between the highest and lowest earners, with the top 1% accumulating a disproportionately large share of the nation's wealth and income. For example, in 2021, the top 1% earned 14.6% of all wages, twice as much as in 1979, while the bottom 90% earned just 58.6% ...and I haven't even tapped into the govt. subsidising the very rich in whatever business scheme (such as Palantir, a company heavily involved in the deportation of people making the process more about making money rather than getting rid of the non existent 'murderers and rapists'). Make no mistake, the deportations are a racket making millions for contractors and vested interests (Miller) or the huge grants and subsidies paid to Musk's activities - all through the taxpayer directly (and you are opposed to tax increases for the very rich ?!), Bizarre reasoning (or lack of). I will spell it out - the taxpayer makes them rich and you want the taxpayer to give them concessions on top of the tax payer financed schemes they receive in abundance?

FMBFY - opinion based on facts rather than opinion based on bullshit.
 

icowden

Shaman
Rid the country of illegal immigration, work for US citizens appears
Sadly there is no relationship between these two things.

Unemployment has dropped as people are unable to afford to retire.

Job gains are largely in state government and healthcare, offset by the cuts in federal government.

Job gains were seen in state government and healthcare, which saw increases of 47,000 and 39,000 jobs, respectively. Meanwhile, federal government job losses continued, with another 7,000 roles down in May, as the Trump administration continues to cut jobs. The total job loss in the federal government has been 69,000 since January.
 

CXRAndy

Legendary Member
47k jobs were local government

The remaining spread over hospitals, social care workers, hospitality and construction workers. The type of jobs illegal migrants might happen to take, low wages, no qualifications required
 

CXRAndy

Legendary Member
Seems that Hakeem Jeffries fillabuster attempt convinced undecided congressmen to vote the bill through

:laugh:
 

briantrumpet

Über Member
So Trump now has his own large MAGA army to direct now, funded by taxpayers... just that it's going to target people living in America. Terror is the objective.

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briantrumpet

Über Member
MAGA obviously can't see the wood for the trees.
First they came for...

Remember 'Latinos for Trump'?... well, Trump's now going for Latinos.

In the below, 65 million is a very specific number - it's how many Latinos there are in the US. Outrage as well as terror are part of the Trump deal. They correctly have worked out that Democratic outrage means nothing in the grand scheme of things, and they revel in causing it.

I think the biggest 'ifs' now are *if* there will be midterm elections in 2026, and if there are *if* they will be free and fair. I think both are not certainties at this point.

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And the Supreme Court won't be any help. Sotomayor's dissent in a case involving a deportation without due process, is direct in its assessment:

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