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Donald I, emperor of the world.
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Asking for a friend?
BoldonLad
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Does that mean the rest of the world will still be able to buy shiney made in China iPhones etc?
cookiemonster
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cookiemonster
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Most chips for iPhone and Macs are made in Taiwan.
I don't think any are made in the US.
BoldonLad
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On the “ I’m alright Jack” principle, that’s all I need to know 😊
First Aspect
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I know.
But he has waived tariffs where some chips are manufactured in the US, regardless of whether that manufacturer is importing them for most purposes.
I think.
If so, then the US hasn't been liberated entirely from the tyranny of low cost efficient manufacturing abroad leading to cheap consumer goods in the US.
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Pblakeney
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I'm confused (again). If they are manufactured in the US they can't be importing the same items? The imported chips will be hit by tariffs to be used in US manufactured products. Trump wants chip manufacturing moved to the States so no imports.
First Aspect
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No. There are no tariffs on a lot of imported chips, where those importers make something in the US.
The whole point of tariffs, supposedly, is to penalise manufacture abroad and supposedly level the playing field and promote domestic US manufacture. This subtle change in policy doesn't achieve that, and for good reason, because iPhone would cost 5 times as much.
So the change itself illustrates the folly of the whole policy, and also clearly indicates that a good deal of lobbying has taken place.
Beebo
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So it would be cheaper to buy one made in Taiwan and pay the tariffs?
Psamathe
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Importing chips as chips into US would only be for manufacture in the US. Why would a company import chips and not make something with them?
Does it include product containing chips? eg most washing machines will contain semi-conductors so does this new tariff apply to washing machines? fridges? etc.
And as a import tariff seems like ludicrous admin where specific companies are exempt where they have committed to build factories yet if they don't then meet that commitment they'll retrospectively have to pay the tariff. And who decides if the commitment to build a factory is enough to exempt them eg Apple $100m commitment maybe they are looking at the $100m as cheaper than the tariffs? (no idea on the numbers on that)
Ian
First Aspect
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I don't know the numbers to be honest, but the original argument for tariffs was shortsightedly not about how any imports were then used, and nor is it now.
All the orange one has done is exempted tariffs on chips where there is *some* manufacture of chips in the US.
An analogy would be to remove the much ridiculed banana import tariffs because someone planted a banana palm in the US.
All the orange one has done is exempted tariffs on chips where there is *some* manufacture of chips in the US.
An analogy would be to remove the much ridiculed banana import tariffs because someone planted a banana palm in the US.
Pblakeney
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Yes. This is what the idiot does not grasp.
Maybe he'll up the tariff to his new favourite number 1500%. But then that is purely USAnians paying that price.
