Dorset Boy
Regular
But Donald keeps telling the world that it is other countries that pay the tariffs he has been trying to impose....
Donald I, emperor of the world.
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But Donald keeps telling the world that it is other countries that pay the tariffs he has been trying to impose....
briantrumpet
Guru
Let's just say that the Kennedy session in Senate was wild. He makes Trump look like a calm genius.
briantrumpet
Guru
You do wonder how far away civil war is when Trump is in effect threatening to invade states against their will.
So, let me get this right: if a state wants to ban abortion, there's nothing the federal government can do (Supreme Court overturning Roe v Wade), but if that state doesn't want the federal government to interfere militarily in the state, the federal government can do it anyway.
Riiight.
So, let me get this right: if a state wants to ban abortion, there's nothing the federal government can do (Supreme Court overturning Roe v Wade), but if that state doesn't want the federal government to interfere militarily in the state, the federal government can do it anyway.
Riiight.
Bazzer
Senior Member
If the Supreme Court sides with the current rulings, not only will the tariffs will have to be repaid to the companies and individuals importing the tariffed goods, but it is also at interest.
A couple of questions spring to mind. Firstly the government's scope for paying for the repayments, given the tax cuts for the wealthy. Secondly the nightmare of identifying the companies/individuals who have been subjected to a tariff and no doubt there will be a considerable number who used third parties.
It's a good job DOGE didn't just slash departmental staff without regard to the consequences...........
AndyRM
Elder Goth
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgr9r4qr0ppo
This screams "Tell me you're insecure without telling me you're insecure".
Other than saying "Yep, we've won that", before walking away without having actually won anything, I can't think of many US victories.
This screams "Tell me you're insecure without telling me you're insecure".
Other than saying "Yep, we've won that", before walking away without having actually won anything, I can't think of many US victories.
Pross
Active Member
Maybe that’s why they are rebranding the Department of Defence as the Department of War.
Pinno718
Senior Member
But can it be enforceable or is the Trump administration just going to kick it down the appeals court indefinitely?
Pinno718
Senior Member
Sometimes, it's hard to separate what's dementia/narcissism from the Project 2025 agenda.
Renaming the Gulf of Mexico is in this same theme.
This may seem far fetched but if you isolate America (tariffs?) , place it on a pedestal (renaming) and blame the world for all your domestic woes through state media, you control the narrative.
It will only become clearer when Trump kicks the bucket. Including his own family, he's promoted the very rich who will want to maintain their wealth and power. Project 2025: the Christian Nationalist patriarchal wet dream.
icowden
Shaman
What the farking farketty fark?
Florida aims to ban vaccine mandates for schoolchildren
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg0e485wwwo
All uphill
Well-Known Member
Life is only sacrosanct in the womb, or if it is a billionaire.
Pinno718
Senior Member
Not even that:
measles can affect babies in the womb by transmitting to the foetus, leading to risks like miscarriage, stillbirth, premature birth, and low birth weight. If the foetus is exposed to the measles virus in utero, the newborn can be born with congenital measles, a serious condition that can cause severe complications such as encephalitis and even death.
Bazzer
Senior Member
I believe application has been made to the Supreme Court. As I understand the process, if the SC decides to review the appeal, then the current position is stayed. I.e. the tariffs continue until determined otherwise. If the SC decides not to review the matter, then around the middle of October the latest judgement would come into effect and the regime would be required to repay the tariffs with interest.*
Although some cases do seem to take an age before hearing and there is a growing list of cases to be heard by the SC, having an appeal before the SC isn't necessarily going to indefinitely kick the appeal down the road. They acted pretty quickly in the move to have orange rapist removed from the ballot in certain states and extremely quickly in the Albrego Garcia case. But what I don't know exactly what criteria they apply in deciding how quickly appeals should be heard.
* Given the regime has habitually ignored or sought to circumvent court orders in, for example, the Albrego Garcia case, having a court judgement does not necessarily mean the money would immediately be repaid. But American courts may be more inclined to award punitive damages where there has been a deprivation of money, as opposed to liberty.
Pinno718
Senior Member
Yes this ^.
