Donald I, emperor of the world.

[Pinno718]

Has anybody here said that?

In bold? Yes. Look back over previous post.

 

[matticus]

Lots of videos out there of black people who were fans of Kirk btw.

Newsflash - they're allowed to hold that view.

 

[Ianonabike]

Not exactly a newsflash

 

[Ianonabike]

I agree that revelling in Kirk's murder is abhorrent, but taking on his arguments and highlighting how Kirk and many others have been sowing division and hate for some time is not only important but necessary.

Just to go back to this, when a man kills someone for his supposed hatred, i.e., Kirk reaped what he sowed (according to many), there's a conversation to be had about what constitutes hate.

 

[Pinno718]

Just to go back to this, when a man kills someone for his supposed hatred, i.e., Kirk reaped what he sowed (according to many), there's a conversation to be had about what constitutes hate.

Yes of course.
What's the point you are trying to make?

 

[Pblakeney]

Newsflash - they're allowed to hold that view.

Of course they are allowed to. Not sure that is in their best self interest but their choice.

 

[briantrumpet]

Of course they are allowed to. Not sure that is in their best self interest but their choice.

Latinos also voted for Trump.

 

[Ianonabike]

What's the point you are trying to make?

Er... let's have the conversation?

 

[matticus]

Just to go back to this, when a man kills someone for his supposed hatred, i.e., Kirk reaped what he sowed (according to many), there's a conversation to be had about what constitutes hate.

You've highlighted a different converstaion (which isn't really about hatred at all):
I might argue that he died due to lack of sensible gun control in his country.

 

[Ianonabike]

You've highlighted a different converstaion (which isn't really about hatred at all):

Sorry if I'm missing something.
I was thinking specifically about where Robinson said "I had enough of his hatred."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/16/charlie-kirk-shooting-prosecutor-utah

I might argue that he died due to lack of sensible gun control in his country.

You won't get an argument from me about the lack of sensible gun control - I disagreed with Kirk about that. But gun ownership is in their Constitution (keeping in mind the disagreements as to the interpretation).

 

[briantrumpet]

Er... let's have the conversation?

Racism is hatred, even if it's said in a calm voice. Can we take that as a given?

 

[Ianonabike]

It's not a given he was racist.

 

[matticus]

You won't get an argument from me about the lack of sensible gun control - I disagreed with Kirk about that. But gun ownership is in their Constitution (keeping in mind the disagreements as to the interpretation).

Excellent.

I have no idea why you needed to add the "But ..."
... although it's probably the "But..." that killed him.

 

[secretsqirrel]

I'm glad they've found something to poke fun at again. It's not like there's been anything worth satirising in the news lately, like oh I dont know, 2 high profile resignations from government, the collapse of the economy whilst ministers continue to trouser freebies, a floundering, lying PM who is living on borrowed time. Stick it to the Yanks though lads!!

Are you suggesting that Led by Donkeys should be impartial

 

[Ianonabike]

I have no idea why you needed to add the "But ..."
... although it's probably the "But..." that killed him.

I added the "But" because many Americans consider it their right to bear arms (because legally it is), and we can disagree all we like but it doesn't matter.