Donald I, emperor of the world.

[matticus]

Abdul El-Sayed, Adam Hamawy, Darializa Avila Chevalier, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, Lateefah Simon, not to mention Zohran Mamdani, Alexandria Ocasia-Cortez.

Without statistics to show the facts I would imagine there are more foreign sounding and/or Muslim politicians in the US than there were in 2008.

Don't forget the wonderfully named Keisha Lance Bottoms!

 

[Psamathe]

yebbut despite that, I'd say it was a good night!

Or maybe the "least bad outcome"?

 

[Pinno718]

I was thinking more he's going to find it harder to do what he wants and if he keeps ignoring Senate they may eventually get pushed into taking action against him.

We hope.
Speaker of the house is likely to be Hakeem Jeffries but he's taken AIPAC monies.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Don't forget the wonderfully named Keisha Lance Bottoms!

Who could forget that name?

I'm sure she has a relative who carried out my prostate biopsy last year.

 

[briantrumpet]

We hope.
Speaker of the house is likely to be Hakeem Jeffries but he's taken AIPAC monies.

And he does his level best to ignore the progressive Dems, especially the ones who just happen to be Muslim.

 

[Pinno718]

Will certain Republicans come out of hiding and speak their mind about Trump/assist in pushback?

 

[briantrumpet]

Will certain Republicans come out of hiding and speak their mind about Trump/assist in pushback?

If they've got the sense to be looking at 2028, they would. Though it might take a while for 'sense' and 'Republicans' to be taken seriously in the same sentence. Might as well start now, if they want to escape the cult.

 

[AuroraSaab]

They seem to wait until they have to nominate and elect someone to stand for the presidency before coming together with any party policies.

Yes, and that's the madness of the American system, where you vote on presidential personalities not policies. What's the fine detail of the Democrat position on Iran and Ukraine? On the economy and immigration? On AI? It just seems to be 'not Trump'. They can capitalise on anti-Trump sentiment now but they need policies that will bring people together if they want to win people over to the Democrats enough to win the next election. It's a mad system. It's also mad that a country that size has only 2 viable political parties to vote for.

 

[PurplePenguin]

Only 12/13 Republicans are now required to convict Trump and remove him from office. That's an option for the Republican party if they have any desire to win the next presidential election.

 

[Pross]

Only 12/13 Republicans are now required to convict Trump and remove him from office. That's an option for the Republican party if they have any desire to win the next presidential election.

I think they'll still be scared of losing the MAGA base if they do that. If MAGAs fail to vote in 2028 presumably it could cost them even worse.

 

[PurplePenguin]

I think they'll still be scared of losing the MAGA base if they do that. If MAGAs fail to vote in 2028 presumably it could cost them even worse.

In Korea* at some point, the president's own party voted to remove him, and it did do the party a lot of damage at the subsequent election. I struggle to see how keeping Trump on can help the Republicans though.

*The world is not full of example of democracies removing corrupt presidents.

 

[AuroraSaab]

They need a unifying candidate, not one chosen on the basis of crucifying Trump and punishing the Republican voter base for years to come. The next president - from whichever side - needs to draw a line under the whole debacle or the country will still be in pieces for another decade. Unfortunately I don't see such a figure; there's no Obama or Mandela (or the Republican equivalent) waiting in the wings.

 

[First Aspect]

I think they'll still be scared of losing the MAGA base if they do that. If MAGAs fail to vote in 2028 presumably it could cost them even worse.

Potentially they could appoint an independent panel to investigate his fitness for office. Pelosi tried in 2020 but they didnt have a senate majority.

The 25th amendment would fsce the same supermajority hurdles, but the findings would be made public and could be just as good, if he turns out to have dementia, incontinence etc.

But the Democrats need to be looking forward not back. The voting public are just as exhausted with a decade if pantomime as the rest of the world.

What will actually happen is legislative stalemate and possibly the Trump administration doing as much corrupt damage as executive order will allow while they still can. God only know what will happen militarily.

 

[Psamathe]

Only 12/13 Republicans are now required to convict Trump and remove him from office. That's an option for the Republican party if they have any desire to win the next presidential election.

I don't think they will at least from my (maybe incorrect?) understanding of the US system. Were they to get convict and remove Trümp I didn't think they'll get new elections but instead get JD Vance. And I can't see many Republicans being too keen on that.

 

[briantrumpet]

They need a unifying candidate, not one chosen on the basis of crucifying Trump and punishing the Republican voter base for years to come. The next president - from whichever side - needs to draw a line under the whole debacle or the country will still be in pieces for another decade. Unfortunately I don't see such a figure; there's no Obama or Mandela (or the Republican equivalent) waiting in the wings.

Unfortunately the habit of not prosecuting former miscreants has led Republicans to assume (correctly) that ultimately they can get away with just about anything... remember it was Nixon's lawyers, not Nixon, who paid the price.