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briantrumpet
Timewaster
Tush, now you're just repeating stuff you've heard from people who have some idea how international trade works in the 21st century.
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Tush, now you're just repeating stuff you've heard from people who have some idea how international trade works in the 21st century.
Pross
Guru
Yeah ‘experts’ - sorry, I forgot we’d had enough of them. I’ll start reminiscing about a time before I was born as though I was there instead (and which didn’t really exist even at the time).
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briantrumpet
Timewaster
If anyone knows the score, Barnier knows.
In other news, the £ is still hovering around 1.20€. It was 1.22 in 2013.
In other news, the £ is still hovering around 1.20€. It was 1.22 in 2013.
Psamathe
Squire
Re: joining the €: I think there is also the question of "timing" which can end-up meaning never. Saying:
So agreeing to move to joining the € in 5 years time ... can be slipped and slipped and once in the single market and "not yet" in the € is not going to get you thrown out.
Stevo 666
Guru
What, like cars with steering wheels on the right hand side?
Ian H
Pharaoh
UK and around 60 other countries drive on the left.
C R
Squire
The UK is probably nowhere near being the top market for right hand drive cars.
First Aspect
Squire
I looked it up. Japan and India each have about 2.5 times the number of vehicle sales.
Largest two car markets (China and US) between them account for about 4 time that of then UK, Japan and India combined.
Surprisingly the Chinese market is twice as big as the US.
Largest two car markets (China and US) between them account for about 4 time that of then UK, Japan and India combined.
Surprisingly the Chinese market is twice as big as the US.
Stevo 666
Guru
There are other features specific to the UK market - for example rear fog lights: UK law mandates at least one bright rear fog light.
First Aspect
Squire
The whole EU mandates them. And you can make them on both sides to be suitable for all markets.
First Aspect
Squire
Might be worth asking exactly what EU regulations and product standards and food standards are actually objectionable Stevo.
The way this works in reality is when serving a global market, a manufacturer will meet whichever requirements cover all their markets. If there's a lower cheaper standard for a smaller markets - let's call that "the United kingdom" for the sake of argument - the cost savings are rendered irrelevant by the additional costs of making two things.
So basically all this jingoistic bollocks about Brexit and the EU standards seems to me and most people intelligent enough to cope with shoelaces, to amount to either nonsense if you intend to trade with the EU, or wilful self harm if you don't.
I don't remember even the tub thumping Brexiteers arguing that the UK would be free to do great, great deals with everyone except the EU. Rather they glossed over the whole pissed off European thing and took it for granted that they'd beg us for a wonderful deal.
The way this works in reality is when serving a global market, a manufacturer will meet whichever requirements cover all their markets. If there's a lower cheaper standard for a smaller markets - let's call that "the United kingdom" for the sake of argument - the cost savings are rendered irrelevant by the additional costs of making two things.
So basically all this jingoistic bollocks about Brexit and the EU standards seems to me and most people intelligent enough to cope with shoelaces, to amount to either nonsense if you intend to trade with the EU, or wilful self harm if you don't.
I don't remember even the tub thumping Brexiteers arguing that the UK would be free to do great, great deals with everyone except the EU. Rather they glossed over the whole pissed off European thing and took it for granted that they'd beg us for a wonderful deal.
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Pross
Guru
If the market wasn’t sufficient in the UK the manufacturers wouldn’t do it. That’s the point I was making, if the UK has more relaxed laws than the EU companies will decide whether it is worth making a separate lower spec model for the UK market (or vice versa if the UK has higher standards). In most cases they will decide to just do the higher spec. Where the two have contradictory specs they’ll make a commercial decision if one or other market is worth the hassle.
Pblakeney
Shaman
AKA exceptionalism.
Dorset Boy
Über Member
Michael Barnier interviewed on Sky News would welcome the UK back, and Euro membership not required,
Pblakeney
Shaman
...but freedom of movement will be so...
