Gender again. Sorry!

[CXRAndy]

You don't even know which time zone from which I'm posting, you parochial bellend.

You're spoiling your holiday, have a swim , go to the bar.

 

[multitool]

You're spoiling your holiday, have a swim , go to the bar.

You assume I'm on holiday, you parochial bellend.

 

[CXRAndy]

You assume I'm on holiday, you parochial bellend.

If you're living the dream elsewhere, you really shouldn't concern yourself with our little back water discussions

 

[multitool]

If you're living the dream elsewhere, you really shouldn't concern yourself with our little back water discussions

You assume I'm living elsewhere, you parochial bellend.

 

[newfhouse]

I'm guessing it's because you're male.

So why do many women feel the same? Brainwashed, downtrodden, thoughtless, something else?

 

[multitool]

So why do many women feel the same? Brainwashed, downtrodden, thoughtless, something else?

Aurora's standard trick is to denounce trans support from men as patriarchy, and then side-step it when the support cones from women.

 

[CXRAndy]

You assume I'm living elsewhere, you parochial bellend.

What you're working. you mustn't waste your employers time like this.

Just so you know, I'm retired, did it early at 35

 

[multitool]

What you're working. you mustn't waste your employers time like this.

Just so you know, I'm retired, did it early at 35

You assume I have an 'employer'. Or indeed that that I have working hours, you parochial bellend.

I'm touched that you think I'm interested in your life. I already know everything about you that I need to know.

 

[CXRAndy]

I already know everything about you that I need to know

Never judge a book by the cover

 

[multitool]

Never judge a book by the cover

I'm not.

And it's more of a leaflet than a book.

Can you manage anything more than trite, clichéd aphorism?

 

[CXRAndy]

I very much doubt you're abroad.

 

[newfhouse]

I very much doubt you're a broad.

No, he’s a bloke.

 

[AuroraSaab]

So why do many women feel the same? Brainwashed, downtrodden, thoughtless, something else?

Do they feel exactly the same though? ie think transwomen are women and should have access to all women's single sex spaces and services.

Part of it is understanding what is meant by trans rights. If you ask people do they support trans rights, they will say Yes because they think that means freedom from persecution, prejudice, discrimination. If you ask 'Should a disabled woman be able to insist on a same sex carer?', they will likely say Yes by a large margin - not understanding that that is an example of the right to exclude that transactivists want to do away with.

There's no mass support from women for transwomen to be in female sports. Why? Because it is where the difference between male and female is very stark and obvious. People are less likely to think through the implications of the same push for inclusion in other less obvious spheres. In fact they often don't even know about things like men being in women's jails or women's refuges.

 

[newfhouse]

Do they feel exactly the same though?

I doubt it. I suspect there is (forgive me) a spectrum of views.

People are less likely to think through the implications of the same push for inclusion in other less obvious spheres. In fact they often don't even know about things like men being in women's jails or women's refuges.

So the ones that see things differently to you are simply thoughtless and/or ill informed, is that it?

 

[AuroraSaab]

Aurora's standard trick is to denounce trans support from men as patriarchy, and then side-step it when the support cones from women.

If women and girls were entirely free from the influence of socialisation and the patriarchy, there wouldn't be a patriarchy. Funny how children can't possibly be influenced by social contagion, adult women aren't influence by socialisation at all, but violent young men are 100% influenced by feminists on the Internet.