qigong chimp
Settler of gobby hash.
This thread is becoming a tavesty.
Gender again. Sorry!
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Ian H
Legendary Member
What would Tom Stoppard think?
AuroraSaab
Squire
Perhaps we should all write our posts in Dutch, then Dutchguy can critique them for spelling and grammar.
I don't feel the need to defend KJK's views as they don't particularly align with my own and she is one voice amongst many. There's no unified British women's rights movement. She does her own thing as do a number of other influential figures.
There's been a constant attempt in this thread though to suggest that because she aligns with right wingers then every belief she espouses is tainted with fascism. That's just nonsense. People can agree on individual issues and have very different motivations for their beliefs.
It's not trans exclusion, it's male exclusion. All of 'em. Every single one. Even the ones who wish they weren't male.
Do you have any proof of that? UK gender critical feminism is mostly funded by women giving a tenner to Just Giving fundraisers. It doesn't enjoy the vast coffers of Mermaids and Stonewall and isn't government funded or given grants by big foundations or charities. It's just women advocating for women.
Not in the UK they don't. UK gender critical feminism is basically a left wing grassroots movement. Not seeing many religious folk amongst them.
Yet to see a gender critical UK woman with a 'Kill Trans' t shirt or a 'Decapitate Trans' placard. Seen lots of rape and death threats to women though.
My view is simply that no males, without exception, should be in female single sex spaces and services, including prisons and sports. I'd be very surprised if that was a minority view.
I don't feel the need to defend KJK's views as they don't particularly align with my own and she is one voice amongst many. There's no unified British women's rights movement. She does her own thing as do a number of other influential figures.
There's been a constant attempt in this thread though to suggest that because she aligns with right wingers then every belief she espouses is tainted with fascism. That's just nonsense. People can agree on individual issues and have very different motivations for their beliefs.
It's not trans exclusion, it's male exclusion. All of 'em. Every single one. Even the ones who wish they weren't male.
Do you have any proof of that? UK gender critical feminism is mostly funded by women giving a tenner to Just Giving fundraisers. It doesn't enjoy the vast coffers of Mermaids and Stonewall and isn't government funded or given grants by big foundations or charities. It's just women advocating for women.
Not in the UK they don't. UK gender critical feminism is basically a left wing grassroots movement. Not seeing many religious folk amongst them.
Yet to see a gender critical UK woman with a 'Kill Trans' t shirt or a 'Decapitate Trans' placard. Seen lots of rape and death threats to women though.
My view is simply that no males, without exception, should be in female single sex spaces and services, including prisons and sports. I'd be very surprised if that was a minority view.
multitool
Pharaoh
YET ANOTHER DANGEROUS SEX OFFENDER BEING HOUSED IN A WOMAN'S PRISON!!
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/cri...nham-jailed-police-crime-london-b1056576.html
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/cri...nham-jailed-police-crime-london-b1056576.html
Who are they? ...
monkers
Legendary Member
Death threats? Try deaths. Hundreds of trans women murdered each year including one thirteen year old.
Yet you are upset and post pictures of young trans people when they are receive death threats effectively saying 'kiss my ass'.
It's not trans people harming hundreds of women / people, they are not ideologists, the murderers of trans people are. You seem silent about this, I wonder why?
I've had hundreds of rape and death threats from people on your side, some in person, most on-line just for stating that I stand with trans people. You are not a group of victims.
AuroraSaab
Squire
Women are sent to womens jails. They house all females, violent and non violent. Hardly the same as accommodating males in the female estate though.
AuroraSaab
Squire
Any evidence the person holding the 'Decapitate Terfs' placard had received death threats?
Look higher in the thread for the stats on transgender deaths. They are mostly in south America and disproportionately of those involved in prostitution. I don't minimise these deaths but in the UK transgender people are a safe demographic.
They were pretty much all murdered by men, mostly men who knew them. It's not women murdering trans people. Once again the issue is men and male violence. It's why women need their single sex spaces.
I've never once condoned either violent action or violent threats against transgender people. I've never once excused threats aganst trans people, whereas you have excused the violent rhetoric of transactivism as an acceptable 'kiss my ass' response without knowing if they've had threats or not.
multitool
Pharaoh
You should probably read that back to yourself and have a little think about it...
newfhouse
pleb
Yes, the last thing we need in this thread is lived experience.
winjim
Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis
'Watch the back of my ass as you are eclipsed'
Is this the right thread for big bum jokes? Probably. I'm sure it's fine.
Mr Celine
Well-Known Member
Looks a shoo in for the swivel-eyed wing of the tory party.
multitool
Pharaoh
Say what you like about Kellie-Jay Keen, but she brings all the
At least she did today at her rally in Glasgow.
