CXRAndy
Veteran
Why?
Have they been using women's facilities, when they should not have?
For those following natural rules of keeping women spaces safe, should have no increased issues.
Gender again. Sorry!
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Why?
Have they been using women's facilities, when they should not have?
For those following natural rules of keeping women spaces safe, should have no increased issues.
Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
All of that, my muddle-brained little buddy, is the woke, lefty Labour Party trying to snatch your vote out of the nicotine-stained clutches of Nasty Uncle Nigel. They are watching the polls, sh!tting themselves and hilariously bending & spreading for people who would sooner emasculate themselves with a rusty spoon than vote Labour.
CXRAndy
Veteran
How bloody hard was that, could have saved 15 years of turmoil
Supreme court ruling means trans women should use male toilets, says equalities minister Bridget Phillipson
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2025/apr/22/supreme-court-single-sex-provision-bridget-phillipson-uk-politics-latest-updates-news?filterKeyEvents=false&page=with:block-68073fbf8f08195611b6c878#block-68073fbf8f08195611b6c878
Supreme court ruling means trans women should use male toilets, says equalities minister Bridget Phillipson
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2025/apr/22/supreme-court-single-sex-provision-bridget-phillipson-uk-politics-latest-updates-news?filterKeyEvents=false&page=with:block-68073fbf8f08195611b6c878#block-68073fbf8f08195611b6c878
AuroraSaab
Shaman
Why is your sympathy only for the man who seeks to be in women's spaces?
Where is your sympathy for the 'difficult circumstances' of the women who want only a same sex carer for intimate care for their disabled child or elderly mother?
Where is your sympathy for lesbians who want you meet without men present?
Or the girls who don't want to change in the presence of men for swimming?
Or the women in jails with men?
The answer is you don't seem to have any because you can't see any further than your friend's discomfort. You can't even think about women's discomfort never mind the women who have been sacked, blacklisted, hounded, threatened with rape and death, or subject to abuse, can you? It's simply not on your radar.
As for 'all men are a potential danger to women' making you sad .... it's true though. There are 50k rapes a year in the UK. Men comit almost all sex crimes. The risk is massively asymmetrical isn't it? But you still want everything prefaced with 'Not all men' and want men to have access to women's spaces.
You can't see the wider issues, you can't even see women have needs and rights, because you think the most important thing is that they should be kind and prioritise accommodating men. I don't think you have any idea what women's lives are like.
monkers
Squire
You prefer this version of events to that of Dr Litman. Of course you do, nothing must deviate from the learned indoctrination message.
You lot truly are a cult. As a result women are less safe. You're no longer confronting the patriarchy, you're doing their work while they sit back laughing at you.
Soon more women's rights will be targeted, and I'm guessing you'll be there for that too. Feminist indeed. You are a disgrace.
monkers
Squire
Wrong thread?
AuroraSaab
Shaman
Alice Litman was already on cross sex hormones. Whatever the contributory factors to this young person's death, it wasn't being denied puberty blockers - which is what you have claimed. Yes, I do prefer the findings of the UK's top expert on suicide over your unevidenced claims. He isn't a gender doctor and has no vested interest other than protecting children from ghoulish claims which promote a dangerous 'transition or die' narrative.
CXRAndy
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Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
What was all that about- mental
QED. But isn't it downright fücking alarming that people like this get to participate in an already-skewed democratic process?
CXRAndy
Veteran
Are you talking about me?
monkers
Squire
Sigh, no I didn't say that she was denied puberty blockers. I said that she was (edit: NOT) getting essential healthcare appropriate to her needs.
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CXRAndy
Veteran
Why are going on about individual cases now.
Cass and now Supreme court announcement have pretty much changed everything.
The labour government seems to have fully accepted both these in full. New guidelines will be coming out in summer for institutions, businesses, armed forces, health and sports clubs/association
CXRAndy
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Here are some of the questions from reporters that the PM’s spokesperson had respond to about last week’s supreme court ruling.
Q: Does the PM still believe a trans woman is a woman? No, the PM’s spokesperson replied. He said the supreme court had set out the position.
Q: Does the PM regret going further than that in past statements? The spokesperson said he could not comment on the PM’s views when he was in opposition.
Q: If the PM meets trans women, will he refer to them using their preferred pronouns? The spokesperson said he would not discuss hypotheticals, referred again to the ruling, but said trans people should be treated “with dignity and respect”.
Q: When did the PM change his mind on what constitutes a woman, or did he leave this up to the supreme court? The spokeperson said Starmer has previously said a woman is an adult female. When it was put to him that Starmer used to say a trans women are women, the spokesperson said he could only comment on what Starmer has said since he has been PM.
Q: Did the PM change his mind on what a woman is before he came into government? The spokesperson said that Starmer has repeatedly said a woman is an adult female.
Q: Does JK Rowling deserve an apology? The spokesperson said he would not comment on individuals.
Q: Why did it take the PM so long to comment on the supreme court ruling? The spokesperson said the government issued a response after the ruling came out. Today was the first time when Starmer was asked about it, he said.
Q: Does the PM still believe a trans woman is a woman? No, the PM’s spokesperson replied. He said the supreme court had set out the position.
Q: Does the PM regret going further than that in past statements? The spokesperson said he could not comment on the PM’s views when he was in opposition.
Q: If the PM meets trans women, will he refer to them using their preferred pronouns? The spokesperson said he would not discuss hypotheticals, referred again to the ruling, but said trans people should be treated “with dignity and respect”.
Q: When did the PM change his mind on what constitutes a woman, or did he leave this up to the supreme court? The spokeperson said Starmer has previously said a woman is an adult female. When it was put to him that Starmer used to say a trans women are women, the spokesperson said he could only comment on what Starmer has said since he has been PM.
Q: Did the PM change his mind on what a woman is before he came into government? The spokesperson said that Starmer has repeatedly said a woman is an adult female.
Q: Does JK Rowling deserve an apology? The spokesperson said he would not comment on individuals.
Q: Why did it take the PM so long to comment on the supreme court ruling? The spokesperson said the government issued a response after the ruling came out. Today was the first time when Starmer was asked about it, he said.
