Gender again. Sorry!

[spen666]

"Sovereign status" - there's a new term. AFAIK it is not a term recognised in English Law

 

[monkers]

"Sovereign status" - there's a new term. AFAIK it is not a term recognised in English Law

It's Strasbourg speak because they are talking about / taking account of legal status which can have variance between member states.

 

[spen666]

It's Strasbourg speak because they are talking about / taking account of legal status which can have variance between member states.

so its something not recognised in English Law?
Strasbourg speak is a totally meaningless phrase. So what if Pierre in the cafe tabac in Strasbourg talks about it, it does not make it part of English Law

 

[CXRAndy]

Some are saying it's the drugs they give to these kids or they're indoctrinated. Either way totally crazy behaviour, not normal


View: https://x.com/i/status/2021796046725398786

 

[monkers]

so its something not recognised in English Law?
Strasbourg speak is a totally meaningless phrase. So what if Pierre in the cafe tabac in Strasbourg talks about it, it does not make it part of English Law

There's no such thing as English law in this context. England is not a country recognised at the UN. Our country is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Read my explanation in the context of the post.

The forum is mostly people from within the UK. The rights in question pertain to the Republic of Ireland. They are a sovereign nation with their own constitution and legal system. We can not therefore apply UK law to the case. We can however apply Strasbourg since it is the court of final remedy to both the UK and the Republic of Ireland under convention rights. Conversationally, 'sovereign status' is the simplest term which can use when speaking of rights across member states.

 

[spen666]

There's no such thing as English law in this context. England is not a country recognised at the UN. Our country is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Read my explanation in the context of the post.

The forum is mostly people from within the UK. The rights in question pertain to the Republic of Ireland. They are a sovereign nation with their own constitution and legal system. We can not therefore apply UK law to the case. We can however apply Strasbourg since it is the court of final remedy to both the UK and the Republic of Ireland under convention rights. Conversationally, 'sovereign status' is the simplest term which can use when speaking of rights across member states.

You are making things up now

There is English law and has been so for in hundreds of years
English Law is seperate from Scottish Law and both a seperate from Northern Irish Law.
You are spouting nonsense. There is no such thing in English Law as Sovereign Status. I invite you to provide any law report relating to England that confirms Soverign Status applies to individuals

 

[monkers]

You are making things up now

There is English law and has been so for in hundreds of years
English Law is seperate from Scottish Law and both a seperate from Northern Irish Law.
You are spouting nonsense. There is no such thing in English Law as Sovereign Status. I invite you to provide any law report relating to England that confirms Soverign Status applies to individuals

Learn to read, and learn chronology ...

There's no such thing as English law in this context.

The context is the European Convention on Human Rights.

Why would you expect Old English Law to be applicable to another sovereign state with its own constitution and legal system?

Anyway time to stop feeding a pathetic troll. Try to make more of your sad life little man.

 

[AuroraSaab]

Workplace Exemption Controversy
Separately, Phillipson recently clarified that the updated EHRC code of practice on single-sex spaces does not apply to workplaces. She noted that existing workplace guidance, which allows trans women with a Gender Recognition Certificate (GRC) to use female toilets, remains in force.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2k809vnx0yo

That link isn't about the code of practice.

The code isn't the law. The law is the law. Companies that fail to provide adequate single sex facilities for staff will leave themselves open to claims of indirect discrimination from staff who do not, for example, wish to undress in front of men who pretend to be women.

Employment lawyer Anya Palmer:

Palmer is an actual lawyer, not a fictional one.

 

[monkers]

That link isn't about the code of practice.

The code isn't the law. The law is the law. Companies that fail to provide adequate single sex facilities for staff will leave themselves open to claims of indirect discrimination from staff who do not, for example, wish to undress in front of men who pretend to be women.

Employment lawyer Anya Palmer:

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Palmer is an actual lawyer, not a fictional one.

Shall we wait to hear the judicial review ? It's out tomorrow.