Gulf War No.37: Iranistan
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Pinno718
Guru
Iran will let tankers through the straits if the oil is paid for on Yuan. Oops!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-n...hinese-linked-ships-through-strait-of-hormuz/
Average daily transit pre-conflict was approx. 135 vessels per day. Now it's 1 to 3.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-n...hinese-linked-ships-through-strait-of-hormuz/
Average daily transit pre-conflict was approx. 135 vessels per day. Now it's 1 to 3.
First Aspect
Guru
You don't seem to understand that it is possible to accept that the regime is awful and wish it not to be there, but also consider the war a huge error.
The war will in the short term at least strengthen the regime. It is doing nothing to destroy the well planned structure and depth of it. Any offensive that would achieve this would require land forces and international cooperation for a sustained period, which not even the US has the appetite for.
So the binary reasoning that you need to support the war to dislike the regime Iran is incorrect and simplistic. Hence why Trump is the first and only president to be stupid enough to do it.
Psamathe
Guru
It has demonstrated to the Iranian regime how easily they can close the Strait of Hormuz. They endure the current attacks, lose all their drone and missile and nuclear capability and all they need is a few fishing boats and some really low tech mines and world economy held to ransom as they've closed the Strait.
Before Trűmp/Netanyahu the idea was just part of a theoretical strategy by the Iranian regime. Now Trūmp/Netanyahu have shown Iran just how much power they have (easy, cheap and who is ever going to monitor a few fishing boats and some low tech mines being put together in a few garden sheds).
Trümp/Netanyahu have given Iran much more power then they had just a month ago (or made them realise they really have such power).
First Aspect
Guru
Yes but they've dropped some Large Bombs today and those bunkers near the shore are well and truly busted. Surgically and with precision like has never been seen. Both of them, busted.
First Aspect
Guru
When you say "pandered" do you mean apply heavy sanctions, limit diplomatic ties and occasionally try to destroy nuclear infrastructure? Or do you mean they haven't tried indescriminately bombing cities yet?
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Psamathe
Guru
Interesting BBC More of Less (as a podcast) looking into whether US/Middle East/Israel have enough interceptors compared to Iran's stocks of missiles. Interesting that normally two interceptors fired for each incoming missile. A lot of estimates so my take nothing conclusive.
But what I found interesting is Iran's drones which are apparently very easy to assemble to the point where they can be build in small garage. Which means production can be maintained however much US/Israel bombs factories (they won't even be able to know the vast number of small garages Iran might distribute production across.
But what I found interesting is Iran's drones which are apparently very easy to assemble to the point where they can be build in small garage. Which means production can be maintained however much US/Israel bombs factories (they won't even be able to know the vast number of small garages Iran might distribute production across.
wafter
New Member
This is because they're not interested in peace or compromise, only destroying their ideological enemies.
wafter
New Member
Indeed, and where will Israel stand when they've lost the means to defend against drone / missile attacks and Iran still have enormous stockpiles of munitions left?
I've also read it suggested that Iran are using up their older ordinance first and saving the better stuff until it has a higher chance of reaching its target.
As much as the regime in Iran disgusts me on many levels, they've clearly been very savvy in planning for this situation and it seems their capacity for pragmatism and strategy far exceeds the bunch of muppets in the Whitehouse who chose to kick off this whole conflict...
CXRAndy
Epic Member
Lot of supposition there.
The obvious facts is they were launching hundreds of missiles and drones first couple of days. Now after less than 21 days are only capable of launching around 10-15 per day. There ability to continue at the first days pace as been destroyed.
Each part of their ability to resupply or build weapons has been severed.
The obvious facts is they were launching hundreds of missiles and drones first couple of days. Now after less than 21 days are only capable of launching around 10-15 per day. There ability to continue at the first days pace as been destroyed.
Each part of their ability to resupply or build weapons has been severed.
