Gulf War No.37: Iranistan

[wafter]

Their tactics are limited to "Do as we say or we'll flatten you."

Indeed; unsurprising really given that Trump has based his career on bullying people he sees as weaker than him.

Of course while an unconstructive attitude at the best of times, the fact that he's spent six weeks unsuccessfully attempting to flatten them along with repeated 11th-hour folds on his litany of threats completely undermines any weight such threats might have.

He has nothing left, is twisting in the wind and Iran are well aware of this. The more they drag this out, the weaker and more absurd Trump appears in front of his enemies, his once-allies and the idiots who voted him in.. and the more isolated he becomes. All Iran needs to do is hold steady while Israel runs out of defenses and exposes itself further to external attacks and the US slowly collapses from the inside out.

They are signing up to long term insecurity, that is for certain.

Yup; that's another bumper half-century crop of extremists and suicide bombers in the making

Let the flattening begin. 😢
To see how Lebanon and Iran will go just look at Gaza. Then what? Iraq? (Just in the Middle East as there is also the siege of Cuba.)

The will is certainly there but as others have pointed out Iran is very different - far larger, better fortified, governed and prepared than Gaza or Lebanon.

This isn't the bulldozing of peasants' homes, shooting of stone-throwing kids or bombing of civilians with cutting-edge military tech that Israel has become used to - this is full-on war with a large, motivated, relatively well-equipped standing army.

While I have no love for the Iranian regime / the islamic fundamentalism that underpins it and many other countries in the region; one does wonder how stable the middle east would be if Israel were totally obliterated and the US sent packing with it's tail between it's legs.


On another note, apologies for the abysmal SPAG in my last post!

 

[UglyWithaSidePart]

Now he's going to blockade the Straits, yes, the US Navy are going to do it.
FFS LOL WTF BBQ

 

[Pblakeney]

This isn't the bulldozing of peasants' homes, shooting of stone-throwing kids or bombing of civilians with cutting-edge military tech that Israel has become used to - this is full-on war with a large, motivated, relatively well-equipped standing army.

All true, but this time Israel have the US as a better equipped team mate.

 

[briantrumpet]

Now he's going to blockade the Straits, yes, the US Navy are going to do it.
FFS LOL WTF BBQ

Someone ought to suggest that if he nuked the Strait, all the water would leak out, which would b a far easier way to obtain his objective.

 

[Pblakeney]

Now he's going to blockade the Straits, yes, the US Navy are going to do it.
FFS LOL WTF BBQ

I wonder how this'll play out.

"Did you pay a toll?"
"(Lies) No."
"Okay, on you go. Why do we have to pay a toll?"

Because you started lobbing missiles you absolute imbeciles!

 

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

They are signing up to long term insecurity, that is for certain.

You mean the trick Iran has played in the past few years decades by funding, arming and training proxy forced aiding Asad, Hamas, Yemen Rebels and Hezbollah in Lebanon and some fractions in Iraq. I mean long term insecurity is Iran's main export product.

 

[briantrumpet]

Yeah, sure.

 

[briantrumpet]

God, he's just so transparent. He's just pissed off that Iran & Oman would take the tolls, not him. He wants the action.

 

[Pblakeney]

God, he's just so transparent. He's just pissed off that Iran & Oman would take the tolls, not him. He wants the action.

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He was quite happy with the idea of tolls when he thought he might be able to get a cut. Grifter always grifting.
PS - I'm sure Iran will be happy to oblige. Tolls for all it is! He can go away now. 😂

 

[UglyWithaSidePart]

 

[Psamathe]

God, he's just so transparent. He's just pissed off that Iran & Oman would take the tolls, not him. He wants the action.

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But Trūmp's blockade is going to be the bigliest, most powerful, most impressive, mightiest that the world has ever seen. Whereas Iran's was only "effective".

One aspect Trūmp may have overlooked is that his blockage will be stopping oils and critical resources getting to China and India which will pïss them off and US is just a bit dependent on China ...

 

[briantrumpet]

But Trūmp's blockade is going to be the bigliest, most powerful, most impressive, mightiest that the world has ever seen. Whereas Iran's was only "effective".

One aspect Trūmp may have overlooked is that his blockage will be stopping oils and critical resources getting to China and India which will pïss them off and US is just a bit dependent on China ...

Hang on, are you trying to tell me that simplistic actions can have complex consequences?

 

[Psamathe]

Hang on, are you trying to tell me that simplistic actions can have complex consequences?

Depends on whose mind and in which Universe they are happening in. In Trűmptonland (a not very parallel universe) complexities just don't exist so no need to consider them.

 

[wafter]

Now he's going to blockade the Straits, yes, the US Navy are going to do it.

So, since they're already in a state of war and the US has wrought untold destruction on Iran, what deterrant exists to prevent Iran from attacking US ships attempting to block the strait?

All true, but this time Israel have the US as a better equipped team mate.

For now... but one whose leader is mentally unstable and whose populous (ikely including a lot of service personnel) is very much against the war; unlike Israel apparently where support seems to be much more widespread for their aggressions.

You mean the trick Iran has played in the past few years decades by funding, arming and training proxy forced aiding Asad, Hamas, Yemen Rebels and Hezbollah in Lebanon and some fractions in Iraq. I mean long term insecurity is Iran's main export product.

Fair point; however some of those on your list arguably only exist as a reaction to Israel's incursions into territories that don't belong to them.

Iran may have bolstered the capabilities of these groups, but Israel gave them the incentive.

 

[BoldonLad]

I don't quite understand this...

the Iranians where/are, blocking the Straits of Hormuz, because, it weakened the west, possibly at a cost to themselves, but, at a cost they felt they could withstand.

Now, Trump is going to "punish" Iran by blocking the Starits of Hormuz with his very expensive, high-tech USA Navy vessels, (presumably, putting them in range of Iranian missiles, drones etc), to "punish" the Iranians

So Trump is going to be doing the Iranian's "job" for them, at USA's risk and USA's expense.

Does anyone else "get" this, because, I don't.