HM Gov vs Free Speech : who will win??

[Rusty Nails]

Charles Bronson was speaking to journalist via recorded voice mail during his recent parole hearing.

It was a voice note sent from his cell, not a broadcast interview.

Apparently he has been punished for it by losing phone privileges for a month.

Are you saying Decker should lose phone privileges like Branson, or just confirming that the rules apply to all prisoners?

 

[Beebo]

It was a voice note sent from his cell, not a broadcast interview.

Apparently he has been punished for it by losing phone privileges for a month.

Are you saying Decker should lose phone privileges like Branson, or just confirming that the rules apply to all prisoners?

I wasn’t aware he was punished for it.
But if the rules have been enforced for Bronson then they should be enforced for all.
We can’t have a system where prisoners are treated differently.

 

[newfhouse]

We can’t have a system where prisoners are treated differently.

Really? There's no differences in prison regime between violent criminals and non violent offenders? Why wouldn't there be? Shall we upgrade all open prisons to maximum security?

 

[winjim]

I have to say that the idea of banning prisoners from speaking to journalists gives me the heebie jeebies, but that doesn't mean allowing full live broadcast interviews.

 

[multitool]

I have to say that the idea of banning prisoners from speaking to journalists gives me the heebie jeebies, but that doesn't mean allowing full live broadcast interviews.

Yeah, but everyone is a 'journalist' these days, aren't they.

 

[Beebo]

Really? There's no differences in prison regime between violent criminals and non violent offenders? Why wouldn't there be? Shall we upgrade all open prisons to maximum security?

Fair enough and I take your point.
But I would expect a new prisoner to have to build up to earn these privileges, not expect them from day one.
But if these are known rules, and Bronson got punished for a similar issue, then it makes it difficult to argue against it.

 

[matticus]

I have to say that the idea of banning prisoners from speaking to journalists gives me the heebie jeebies, but that doesn't mean allowing full live broadcast interviews.

Yeah, that's about where I'm at.

When I posted this topic I was aware I should probably research a few things, and it does look like he isn't being totally gagged. Which is good ..

But what is NOT good is the other shoot this government have pulled recently (such as this nonsense https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...o-shut-down-protests-before-disruption-begins
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2022/jan/13/how-will-the-police-and-bill-limit-the-right-to-protest
Among the most controversial elements are new powers for the home secretary to ban marches and demonstrations because they believe they might be “seriously disruptive”, including being too noisy.)

I've been stewing in this for a while, expecting more to get discussed here on my favourite political cycling sub-fora!

 

[albion]

There seem to be attacks on free speech from various directions.

View: https://twitter.com/DiEM_25/status/1653009767978217474

He ain't in prison yet. Unlike his brother. Mind.

 

[Unkraut]

Among the most controversial elements are new powers for the home secretary to ban marches and demonstrations because they believe they might be “seriously disruptive”, including being too noisy.)

Threats to expressions of dissent might be a good reason for Britain to have a basic written constitution.

Parties in dispute - govt or protesters - would then have to justify their actions before an independent court.

I'm not sure the current crop of MP's are mature enough to bring this about even if they wanted to.

 

[multitool]

Threats to expressions of dissent might be a good reason for Britain to have a basic written constitution.

Good idea.

Let's ditch the monarchy, and have a constitution instead.

 

[Bromptonaut]

Threats to expressions of dissent might be a good reason for Britain to have a basic written constitution.

Parties in dispute - govt or protesters - would then have to justify their actions before an independent court.

I'm not sure the current crop of MP's are mature enough to bring this about even if they wanted to.

The Human Rights Act is a good backstop for what might otherwise be constitutional rights; which is why the Right want to repeal it and leave the Convention.

 

[icowden]

Let's ditch the monarchy, and have a constitution instead.

With Brian's latest idea of a pledge of allegiance, I'm really coming round to this idea...

 

[C R]

So much for freedom of speech
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...monarchy-group-arrested-at-coronation-protest

 

[newfhouse]

View: https://twitter.com/michaeltakemp/status/1654757978745065477?s=61&t=IaNHN0MzKohAo3Ktl0DsFQ

 

[newfhouse]