How do you define art?

[Adam4868]

There are plenty of peeps who can tell me. They are almost certainly right.

EH Gombrich....😁

 

[Adam4868]

Compared with this


Just for absolute clarity:

Comparing this

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With this :

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The top one looks like it belongs to a American evangelist.Wouldnt look out of place for Billy Graham 😁
The lower one looks dark and creepy....could be from a Kubrick movie.
The second one without doubt.Probally says something about me !

 

[slowmotion]

EH Gombrich....😁

Yikes! A book by EH Gombrich was on a suggested reading list sent to me before I went to university in 1973. It never was read.

 

[slowmotion]

Here's more Sewell and his opinions on Gombrich...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooy6BP5YO48

 

[Adam4868]

Here's more Sewell and his opinions on Gombrich...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooy6BP5YO48

There are no wrong reasons for liking a work of art... (but) there are wrong reasons for disliking a work of art
EH Gombrich...

 

[Ian H]

There are no wrong reasons for liking a work of art... (but) there are wrong reasons for disliking a work of art
EH Gombrich...

I'd argue there's a difference between liking and understanding.

 

[Cirrus]

The only person who really understands a piece of art is the artist, if they haven't articulated their thoughts on it then everyone else is talking bollocks (in my most humble opinion).

 

[Adam4868]

I'd argue there's a difference between liking and understanding.

Maybe....I allways look at art before reading a artists statement though.Things I've loved without understanding them is what sometimes makes great art for me.

 

[Ian H]

Maybe....I allways look at art before reading a artists statement though.Things I've loved without understanding them is what sometimes makes great art for me.

Understanding comes from looking, not from reading.

 

[Adam4868]

Understanding comes from looking, not from reading.

Mostly.....all art isn't figarative though.Somerimes it needs to be seen and read.Recently went to the Whitworth to see Cloud Studies by Forensic Architecture which was fantastic.Made me want to read more about them.Some would say it's not art at all.But if it gets a message to it's viewers who am I to say if it is or isn't.

 

[theclaud]

The only person who really understands a piece of art is the artist, if they haven't articulated their thoughts on it then everyone else is talking bollocks (in my most humble opinion).

What if the artist is talking bollocks about their own work?

 

[Cirrus]

What if the artist is talking bollocks about their own work?

Then I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised.

 

[AuroraSaab]

I'm not getting dragged into the swirling swamp of gender politics, but he did have a point there, didn't he?

Women are as capable of producing great art as men are. Why wouldn't they be? As with Science, historically they weren't given the same opportunity, and when they did have the opportunity their achievements were not celebrated or publicised, and as such were ignored or forgotten.

Artemisia Gentileschi was 20 in 1612 when she made this painting of Judith beheading Holofernes. Yet most people have heard of her contemporary, Caravaggio, but not her.

 

[Adam4868]

Women are as capable of producing great art as men are. Why wouldn't they be? As with Science, historically they weren't given the same opportunity, and when they did have the opportunity their achievements were not celebrated or publicised, and as such were ignored or forgotten.

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Artemisia Gentileschi was 20 in 1612 when she made this painting of Judith beheading Holofernes. Yet most people have heard of her contemporary, Caravaggio, but not her.

I prefer.....
“There are no great women artists because women are incapable of greatness.”

 

[Ian H]

The only person who really understands a piece of art is the artist, if they haven't articulated their thoughts on it then everyone else is talking bollocks (in my most humble opinion).

Their 'articulated thoughts' are the artwork. Anything else is peripheral, and probably bollocks.