Is calling someone a daffodil offensive?
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Rusty Nails
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No need for that kind of language!
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Ianonabike
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It might be powerful; but is it offensive? Unpacking judicial views on the c-word
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daffodil is the second most popular subject of offensive language charges and infringement notices in NSW, after the word fark (NSW Ombudsman, Citation2009; Trollip et al., Citation2019). The phrases farking daffodil, fark off daffodils, dog daffodils and variations on these themes appear frequently in offensive language cases, usually used towards or in the presence of police (Trollip et al., Citation2019). The legal offensiveness of fark has received substantial academic and practitioner consideration (see, eg, Commissioner of Police v Anderson, Citation1996; Lawrence et al., Citation2016), with defence lawyers commonly citing Magistrate Heilpern’s consideration of the social usage and reception of fark in the unreported case Police v Butler (Citation2003) to argue the word is losing its edge. Similarly, Mullighan J held in Hortin v Rowbottom (Citation1993) that fark ‘is now used in ordinary conversation by both men and women … without offending contemporary standards of decency’ (p. 389). Not all Australian judges have adopted a liberal attitude towards the public utterance of fark in recent decades, however. For instance, in Heanes v Herangi (Citation2007), Johnson J in the Supreme Court of Western Australia upheld the appellant’s disorderly conduct conviction on the grounds that the words ‘fark off’ said to a police officer challenged the officer’s authority (for discussion, see [deleted for peer review]).
A sample paragraph from that as run through the forum swear filter:
daffodil is the second most popular subject of offensive language charges and infringement notices in NSW, after the word fark (NSW Ombudsman, Citation2009; Trollip et al., Citation2019). The phrases farking daffodil, fark off daffodils, dog daffodils and variations on these themes appear frequently in offensive language cases, usually used towards or in the presence of police (Trollip et al., Citation2019). The legal offensiveness of fark has received substantial academic and practitioner consideration (see, eg, Commissioner of Police v Anderson, Citation1996; Lawrence et al., Citation2016), with defence lawyers commonly citing Magistrate Heilpern’s consideration of the social usage and reception of fark in the unreported case Police v Butler (Citation2003) to argue the word is losing its edge. Similarly, Mullighan J held in Hortin v Rowbottom (Citation1993) that fark ‘is now used in ordinary conversation by both men and women … without offending contemporary standards of decency’ (p. 389). Not all Australian judges have adopted a liberal attitude towards the public utterance of fark in recent decades, however. For instance, in Heanes v Herangi (Citation2007), Johnson J in the Supreme Court of Western Australia upheld the appellant’s disorderly conduct conviction on the grounds that the words ‘fark off’ said to a police officer challenged the officer’s authority (for discussion, see [deleted for peer review]).
monkers
Shaman
I don't think that anybody here does not consider it a word that intends offence. There are occasions when people choose to use it. If you read such a thing on the internet, a shrug is the adult response.
Swear filters are ridiculous because as soon as one reads the replacement word the brain instantly decodes it, as if decoding 'deja vous' And deja vous is exactly what I'm getting now, people on the internet finding two year old cases of an offensive term being used on the internet, and not able to deal with it as an adult.
You are a person who considers themself an advocate of absolute free speech. Absolute free speech means all words are acceptable and without consequence. You can't take both positions at the same time without looking like a bit of a delicate flower.
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Ianonabike
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My bold, your word.
All this came up because someone said "it's just going to end up being another trans-hate thread, isn't it?" and I said the only hate I saw were the posts where Monkers called AuroraSaab a "vicious little / vile / dim-witted / lying cunt." We can indeed shrug, but we can also acknowledge the nastiness, no less so because they're old posts...
In any case, as per the OP, I remain interested in what other sorts of things people find offensive.
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monkers
Shaman
Shrugs. I tend to shrug at matters which are neither my responsibility or in my gift to change. I recommend getting over yourself.
First Aspect
Veteran
Socks and sandals.
Sandals generally in fact. No one needs to see anyone else's hobbit toes.
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Ianonabike
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At the risk of being controversial, I'm in complete agreement.
Pblakeney
Veteran
Possibly more controversial, I love my sandals.
Never with socks though, that's just outrageous!
First Aspect
Veteran
Inconsiderate daffodil...
Pblakeney
Veteran
I've been called worse, petal.
briantrumpet
Legendary Member
Perhaps PB considered it, then said "Fxck you, I like my sandals."
Pblakeney
Veteran
That's true. I really don't care about 99.99999% of people's opinions.
briantrumpet
Legendary Member
There was no need to swear though.
Pblakeney
Veteran
There was me thinking it was just flowery language.
