Israel / Palestine

[spen666]

Christ, you sound like Keir Starmer!

I've already expressed my view.

I'm still left wondering why you haven't made the same demand in relation to individual instances of civilian deaths in Gaza.

Yes, you 'condemn all civilian deaths everywhere blah blah' but you singled out this instance of Israeli deaths and invited condemnation. Why have you never done that with any of the atrocities committed by Israel?

Unlike you, I have.


I am not racist and think the deaths of any group are less important than those of the others.

Its clear you are so racist you can't condemn the killing of innocent Israeli civilians, but do condemn killing of innocent Palestinian civilians.

 

[AndyRM]

I hear you're a racist now @glasgowcyclist

 

[Psamathe]

I see that HM Government under Kier Starmer have confirmed in writing that Israel's actions in Gaza do not amount to genocide

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/israel-war-gaza-not-genocide-david-lammy-22wdsmt90

the words of our now Deputy Prime minister last week when he was still Home Secretary.

I am sure many people will be surprised at this

Not really surprising. Lammy near the top of the list of of cabinet ministers receiving money from Israeli lobbyists (totalling over £300,000) https://www.declassifieduk.org/israel-lobby-funded-half-of-keir-starmers-cabinet/

 

[spen666]

Not really surprising. Lammy near the top of the list of of cabinet ministers receiving money from Israeli lobbyists (totalling over £300,000) https://www.declassifieduk.org/israel-lobby-funded-half-of-keir-starmers-cabinet/

Surely such a letter would have to be cleared by government as a whole? If not, a rogue cabinet minister ( in any government ) could cause havoc, before eventually being sacked.

[PS Not suggesting this is what Lammy did]

 

[Psamathe]

Surely such a letter would have to be cleared by government as a whole? If not, a rogue cabinet minister ( in any government ) could cause havoc, before eventually being sacked.

[PS Not suggesting this is what Lammy did]

Look at the others on the list in the provided link "ISRAEL LOBBY FUNDED HALF OF KEIR STARMER’S CABINET". I didn't count numbers of Ministers listed but if they had a vote on the letter lobbies are powerful.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

Its clear you are so racist

Good old Spen.

Always quick with the accusations, yet lacking evidence.

 

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

Not really surprising. Lammy near the top of the list of of cabinet ministers receiving money from Israeli lobbyists (totalling over £300,000) https://www.declassifieduk.org/israel-lobby-funded-half-of-keir-starmers-cabinet/

And then you read there website and you suddenly wonder of they themselves might be bankrolled by Hamas..
Not saying it isn't true, but a quick look on their site learns they are pretty much pro Gaza/Hamas and anti Isreal not really a reliable source is it?

 

[spen666]

Seems like the ante in the Middle East may have been massively upped - reports that Israel has launched missile strike in Qatar

 

[spen666]

Good old Spen.

Always quick with the accusations, yet lacking evidence.

The evidence is clear - your willingness to condemn the killing of innocent Palestinians, but your refusal to condemn the killing of innocent Israeli civilians.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

The evidence is clear - your willingness to condemn the killing of innocent Palestinians, but your refusal to condemn the killing of innocent Israeli civilians.

You’ll need to do better than that when accusing people of being racist.

I’ve expressed my view already. You just don’t like how I did it and somehow you have the idea that I must comply with your preferred method of expression, otherwise I’m a “racist”.

Tough.

 

[spen666]

You’ll need to do better than that when accusing people of being racist.

I’ve expressed my view already. You just don’t like how I did it and somehow you have the idea that I must comply with your preferred method of expression, otherwise I’m a “racist”.

Tough.

You carry on telling yourself that your racism is not racist

If it makes you happy to pretend your racist views are not racist, then carry on in your little bubble

Anyway, far more importantly is what has happened today in Qatar

 

[Bromptonaut]

Good old Spen.

Always quick with the accusations, yet lacking evidence.

I don't know what he's doing today but even more determined than usual to pick squabbles when actually all he does is look he's being 'a bit clever' - which is not a compliment.

 

[Pross]

Today's Vuelta stage got cut short by 8km due to protests supporting Palestine / opposing the presence of the IPT team.

 

[Rusty Nails]

You carry on telling yourself that your racism is not racist

If it makes you happy to pretend your racist views are not racist, then carry on in your little bubble

Anyway, far more importantly is what has happened today in Qatar

Yes, Israel using its power, shored up by the US, to carry out an attack in another country.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

I don't know what he's doing today but even more determined than usual to pick squabbles when actually all he does is look he's being 'a bit clever' - which is not a compliment.

Aye. He picks fights over the more trivial elements within a thread but does a runner from substantive points.

I’m still waiting for answers to questions he’s simply ducked.