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dutchguylivingintheuk

dutchguylivingintheuk

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spen666 said:
Is that not more correctly one Lebanese person says he wants rid of Hezbollah.

I'm not aware a TV personality has a mandate to decide the policy of a country
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The point is, do you expect normal persons to go out an say ''hey Hezbollah you lot really suck'' is that endangers their life? then answer is most likely no, so as long as Hezbollah is an armed fraction you cannot expect to get an honest answer to the question if people really want them.
 
Psamathe

Psamathe

Legendary Member
Depressing
Gaza’s yellow line creeps forward as Israeli forces expand zone of control
Israeli forces have been moving an agreed truce line in Gaza westwards over the six months since the ceasefire, expanding their zone of control and making the state of limbo ever more dangerous for Palestinians.

The “yellow line” agreed in the US-brokered ceasefire in October was supposed to be temporary pending further Israeli withdrawals, but the partially observed truce has stalled after its first phase amid disagreements over the disarming of Hamas, and continued Israeli bombardment of Gaza.

Since then, the yellow line has crept forward in several places, expanding the army-controlled area well beyond the 53% of Gaza territory implied in the original ceasefire maps. According to the research agency Forensic Architecture, by December Israel had taken 58% of the strip and continued to edge forwards.
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Psamathe

Psamathe

Legendary Member
Maybe more relevant to UK/Starmer ... but immediate impact is not having the information to even start holding Israel to any accout
Foreign Office unit tracking Israel’s potential breaches of international law closes due to cuts
Exclusive: Officials warn department will also lose access to database of 26,000 verified incidents due to cuts
The Foreign Office unit tracking potential breaches of international law by Israel in Gaza and more recently Lebanon has been closed because of cuts within the department, the Guardian can reveal.
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Only a fortnight ago, the foreign secretary, Yvette Cooper, said respect and support for international law would be one of the linchpins of the department under her leadership in her major annual set piece foreign policy speech.
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CXRAndy

CXRAndy

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View: https://x.com/i/status/2047398508312031445


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bobzmyunkle

bobzmyunkle

Veteran
Just read a bit more of the article

“My Zionism is also a recognition of Palestinian self-determination.”

These 'Progressive Judaism' folks can reconcile that? Truly incomprehensible.
 
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Pinno718

Pinno718

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bobzmyunkle said:
'risks becoming'????? Got to wonder if that's what the 'senior progressive rabbis think, or is it the Guardian interpretation (don't want to risk being anti-Semitic do we Guardian).

The UK’s most senior progressive rabbis have warned that Israel’s current political direction risks becoming “incompatible with Jewish values”,

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...o-judaism-uks-leading-progressive-rabbis-warn
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That's refreshing at least. All the noise is what Israel is and has been doing so we don't get a different pov or are aware that there are Jewish clergy who do not endorse Netanyahu's terrorism.
If I was a rational Jewish person, I would be wondering how this reflects on them and how they might end up in the cross hairs of more hatred - more so than they already are.
Previously, the hatred directed towards Jewish communities was often simply because they were Jewish but now a cause has reason. Those with reason aren't going to differentiate between the moderates and the extremists.
 
Pblakeney

Pblakeney

Squire
Pinno718 said:
That's refreshing at least. All the noise is what Israel is and has been doing so we don't get a different pov or are aware that there are Jewish clergy who do not endorse Netanyahu's terrorism.
If I was a rational Jewish person, I would be wondering how this reflects on them and how they might end up in the cross hairs of more hatred - more so than they already are.
Previously, the hatred directed towards Jewish communities was often simply because they were Jewish but now a cause has reason. Those with reason aren't going to differentiate between the moderates and the extremists.
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I have a different take on the bit in bold. Those with hatred now have a reason to back it up and would never differentiate between moderates and extremists. Those who are not anti-Jewish have a reason to hate the extremists. Net result, more hatred.
 
Pinno718

Pinno718

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Pblakeney said:
I have a different take on the bit in bold. Those with hatred now have a reason to back it up and would never differentiate between moderates and extremists. Those who are not anti-Jewish have a reason to hate the extremists. Net result, more hatred.
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Erm... seems identical to what I said except expressed differently.
I have a different take on it... (this is where we could go around and around on the word salad roundabout).
 
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