Pblakeney
Shaman
Doesn't need to be anti-Israel, just anti-Netanyahu.
I know, it is getting harder to differentiate but small steps and all that.
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Doesn't need to be anti-Israel, just anti-Netanyahu.
I know, it is getting harder to differentiate but small steps and all that.
Pinno718
Squire
Point taken - Netanyahu or not, the massive pro-Israel lobby guarantees a constant stream of money into Israel.
Netanyahu is like Trump also don't forget there are still ongoing protest in Isreal against Nethanyahu. Not widely reported because they in general remain peacefull so it's boring in comparison to the other news.
Pross
Guru
Presumably it means the paid up members of the boy’s club b have decided Hamas will be disarmed but no-one has told Hamas or worked out how? As they’ve been such a success on this issue Trump is now doubling the membership fee.
Pblakeney
Shaman
Hamas have agreed to the disarming.
Clever on their part as Israel will not agree to withdrawing.
Psamathe
Legendary Member
I wonder how they will phase the disarming/withdrawl given the levels of mistrust (based of recent experience).
If Hamas disarm followed by Israel withdrawing would anybody trust the Israelis to actually withdraw. My cynicism is Israel might withdraw a few hundred meters, maybe even a mile or two but remain in Gaza "to ensure ...". And when the settlers start moving in to Gaza, would the Palestinians have any means to prevent what's happening in the West Bank?
I've not seen the "agreement" but given how vague Trump's Iranian Memorandum of Understanding was does this address the many loopholes?
I hope it does result in peace but history makes me less optimistic.
C R
Squire
Israel has never negotiated in good faith.
Pblakeney
Shaman
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Beebo
Legendary Member
This guy seems like a good chap. Just completely brain washed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g4djgdyk2o
"I think now, after they killed one Israeli, we need to kill all the people in Tal and Sarra, even Jit and Farata," he said, naming the Palestinian villages closest to the outpost.
I put it to him that he was equating one Jewish life with hundreds or even thousands of Palestinian lives.
"No," he said, "millions. One Jewish life, it's 10 million [Palestinians]."
Challenged on the racism of his statement, he did not deny it.
"Yes, I know," he replied. "But this is the truth, because God chose us [and] because of this you are jealous."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g4djgdyk2o
"I think now, after they killed one Israeli, we need to kill all the people in Tal and Sarra, even Jit and Farata," he said, naming the Palestinian villages closest to the outpost.
I put it to him that he was equating one Jewish life with hundreds or even thousands of Palestinian lives.
"No," he said, "millions. One Jewish life, it's 10 million [Palestinians]."
Challenged on the racism of his statement, he did not deny it.
"Yes, I know," he replied. "But this is the truth, because God chose us [and] because of this you are jealous."
Pblakeney
Shaman
Thanks for posting what I was going to.
Neatly explains why there will not be peace until one side or the other has been eradicated. 😢
Pinno718
Squire
Adolf Hitler used a mix of pseudo-scientific racism, social Darwinism, and biological antisemitism to justify the extermination of Jewish people.
The Jewish people are using a divine right to justify their position.
FishFright
Well-Known Member
Once you're doing God's work then everything you chose to do is justified ... Apparently
icowden
Pharaoh
Private Eye have been summing this up for years with their spoof bible passages concerning the smiting in the middle east.
Or and that might sound as a shocker to the resident members of the Hamas fan club, Hamas did agree but simply doesn't listen, like the agreements they breached in 2008, 09, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25 and 26. And now that some countries accept Palestine as a country, where is the ICC prosecutor charging them with Genocide? they don't even have to change the definition like they needed to o to charge Isreal.