Israel / Palestine

[Pblakeney]

Is this the case in which someone was certain they were guilty?

 

[Ian H]

Is this the case in which someone was certain they were guilty?

It's deterrence policing and overreach.

 

[Psamathe]

I'm thinking that the prosecution knew that the charges were unlikely to stick, but these charges allowed for pre trial detention, whereas lower charges more likely to stick would not have led to detention. I think the security services abused the process to make an example of these people.

Maybe in part to justify their proscription of the organisation along the lines of "these are bad people, they are in prison (without mentioning not yet been to trial and not yet found guilty/innocent) so we the Gov. are right and justified to proscribe their organisation".

 

[Milzy]

When governments kill people and take their land, all in the name of God, it should not only be questioned but called out for exactly what it is, evil.

 

[C R]

When governments kill people and take their land, all in the name of God, it should not only be questioned but called out for exactly what it is, evil.

That includes Russia.

 

[Milzy]

That includes Russia.

Yes but it’s partly the fault of the U.K. for letting the Crimea fall.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Yes but it’s partly the fault of the U.K. for letting the Crimea fall.

The Charge of the Light Brigade was a long time ago.


And it wasn't my fault.

 

[briantrumpet]

BBC journalism at its best.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpqwv9vvzx9o

 

[secretsqirrel]

BBC journalism at its best.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpqwv9vvzx9o

That was raw.

 

[Psamathe]

I can't see any path for Israel to ever live in long term peace until it starts treating its neighbours with some respect and stop the killing and bombing everywhere.

People are a continuum of attitudes, strong pacifism at one end to militias at the other. And when your home and land are destroyed, family killed, etc., people tend to have attitudes hardened and for some that will mean switching from being peaceful to picking up a gun.

I see Israel's behaviour both to neighbouring countries and in occupied territories as just hardening attitudes driving some to go join a group who will give them a gun.

i can't see any path to long term peace without starting to live peacefully with neighbours and at least to start with, stopping all the killing.

eg Israel/US's current action might weaken Iran but whatever the outcome there will be enough with hardened attitudes even more determined to rebuild and fight back. Which means it will be a continual cycle of war, only variable is the intervening time it takes for those suffering to re-build and rearm.

 

[Pblakeney]

I can't see any path for Israel to ever live in long term peace until it starts treating its neighbours with some respect and stop the killing and bombing everywhere.

People are a continuum of attitudes, strong pacifism at one end to militias at the other. And when your home and land are destroyed, family killed, etc., people tend to have attitudes hardened and for some that will mean switching from being peaceful to picking up a gun.

I see Israel's behaviour both to neighbouring countries and in occupied territories as just hardening attitudes driving some to go join a group who will give them a gun.

i can't see any path to long term peace without starting to live peacefully with neighbours and at least to start with, stopping all the killing.

eg Israel/US's current action might weaken Iran but whatever the outcome there will be enough with hardened attitudes even more determined to rebuild and fight back. Which means it will be a continual cycle of war, only variable is the intervening time it takes for those suffering to re-build and rearm.

It is looking increasingly that Israel simply doesn't want neighbours.

 

[Ian H]

It is looking increasingly that Israel simply doesn't want neighbours.

Netanyahu needs someone to fight.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Netanyahu needs someone to fight.

As long as he's got US insurance and support to back him up.

 

[Milzy]