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Rusty Nails

Country Member
But the UK is up with the leaders!🇬🇧

Either that or we weren’t included.

And since when is the UN a country?
 
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Badger_Boom

Regular
Some stats after the farcical '60 minutes' interview with the ICC ascribed war criminal Bibi N :

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Maybe Starmer should add us not even being in the top 20 to his list of reasons to resign.
 
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Ian H

Shaman
Ben-Gvir Blocking State Inspectors From Israeli Prisons, Preventing Oversight
Israel Prison Service laws require National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir to approve the entry of state inspectors to examine detention facilities. However, the list of names has been on his desk for more than half a year, and he has refrained from signing it

[Haaretz]
 

Psamathe

Legendary Member
At what point does a country become a pariah state?
Israel’s defence minister says large-scale Palestinian migration from Gaza will go ahead
Israel’s defence minister has said he is committed to the ethnic cleansing of Gaza through large-scale migration of Palestinians as part of Israel’s long-term plans for the territory.
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Pushing for mass departures violates Donald Trump’s ceasefire plan for Gaza, which Israel signed last year. The second point of the plan states: “Gaza will be redeveloped for the benefit of the people of Gaza, who have suffered more than enough.”
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The forced transfer of civilian populations is a war crime and a crime against humanity. Israeli officials, including Katz, use the term “voluntary migration” to describe their plans for large numbers of Palestinians to leave Gaza.

Israel-based human rights organisations and lawyers have warned that the conditions Israel has imposed on Gaza mean no departure can be considered voluntary and the policy constitutes planning for ethnic cleansing.
 

C R

Legendary Member
At what point does a country become a pariah state?

Only when they are not white.
 

Psamathe

Legendary Member
See also Russia.
Ukraine could be sorted if Donnie wanted it to happen.
They're both thinking more about their own skins than those of the people they are sending into war.
Daft aspect that keeps occurring to me is if Putin now won how would he rule Ukraine. He would be "public enemy no 1" across Ukraine given what he's put them through. Even if he got Donbas would what population remains welcome him after his destruction of their entire region?
 

secretsqirrel

Ăśber Member
Daft aspect that keeps occurring to me is if Putin now won how would he rule Ukraine. He would be "public enemy no 1" across Ukraine given what he's put them through. Even if he got Donbas would what population remains welcome him after his destruction of their entire region?

He should be public enemy no 1 to the Russian public, but there is a oppressive regime in operation. He would rule with fear and intimidation as the default.
 

Pinno718

Legendary Member
Daft aspect that keeps occurring to me is if Putin now won how would he rule Ukraine. He would be "public enemy no 1" across Ukraine given what he's put them through. Even if he got Donbas would what population remains welcome him after his destruction of their entire region?

Thankfully he is not getting Donbas. Donbas is a living hell for the Russian military - now labelled 'the corridor of death' with drones taking out military equipment on the main highway through at a rate of about 50 strikes per day.
But back to Israel; where is the pushback internationally?
 
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