It's a rout - is the old order on the way out?

[icowden]

You will be oblivious to the detail that the SNP fought (if you can call it that) their campaign entirely on keeping Reform out, and by characterising Labour of incapable of winning. There was not a single mention of independence, and that very probably wasn't a cack-handed oversight.

Out of interest, was anybody in the room where happened and did the SNP throw away their shot?

 

[First Aspect]

You will be oblivious to the detail that the SNP fought (if you can call it that) their campaign entirely on keeping Reform out, and by characterising Labour of incapable of winning. There was not a single mention of independence, and that very probably wasn't a cack-handed oversight.

Many pro-indpendence Scots are angry at, and abandoning the SNP because they have become so timid about what is their single reason for existing. The voting stats from Hamilton are being broadly interpreted as a consequence of former SNP voters staying home.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/05/11/john-swinney-scottish-independence-vote-support/

https://www.holyrood.com/news/view,independence-will-help-tackle-alienation-says-john-swinney

What makes you think I'm oblivious? Could be that the SNP are naive and think that doorstep campaigning and national campaigning are separate.

 

[CXRAndy]

This will blow the mind of our MAGA correspondent who was hailing Reform winning a ward seat in the by-election for a rural Welsh Council with a turnout of 750 voters as a big victory and a sign of things to come just a week ago (to be fair I don't think he really understood the information beyond a headline of a Reform by-election win).

By any stretch, this was a good result. Scotland has been traditionally been SNP or Labour apart from small pockets of conservatives. Reform coming a close third with 26% of the vote is extremely positive for their objectives.

Tories cames nowhere and look now to be a spent force

 

[Xipe Totec]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/05/11/john-swinney-scottish-independence-vote-support/

https://www.holyrood.com/news/view,independence-will-help-tackle-alienation-says-john-swinney

What makes you think I'm oblivious? Could be that the SNP are naive and think that doorstep campaigning and national campaigning are separate.

Do you think Starmer braying THERE WILL BE NO SECOND INDEPENDENCE REFERENDUM gave Labour a little nudge over the line?

 

[First Aspect]

Do you think Starmer braying THERE WILL BE NO SECOND INDEPENDENCE REFERENDUM gave Labour a little nudge over the line?

I don't know but I suspect it was more or less irrelevant.

 

[secretsqirrel]

I listened to very interesting Newscast in the early hours of this morning.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0lgp32d?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile (available on BBC Sounds).

Jeremy Hunt (a new book coming out of course) speaking sense on a variety of political subjects including Starmer, Reeves, Yusuf and Truss etc. I have to say I was impressed with his insights and I would say definitely worth a listen.

 

[Stevo 666]

Seeing the SNP lose a seat and Labour gain a seat is very much mixed feelings for me. Mind you, it is Scotland so was probably going to be one or the other.

 

[First Aspect]

Sadly it sounds like the SNP were running an "against" campaign rather than for SNP. Other than independence.

Who knew. They only have one policy.

 

[icowden]

In the meantime, apparently it's OK to be crap at your job when you start.

Badenoch told the BBC: "You don't want people to be the very best they're going to be on day one."

Let's hope she never needs surgery...

 

[Ian H]

In the meantime, apparently it's OK to be crap at your job when you start.

Badenoch told the BBC: "You don't want people to be the very best they're going to be on day one."

Let's hope she never needs surgery...

Cue 'if at first you don't succeed' jokes.

 

[First Aspect]

BadEnoch's quote of the day is, "Reform are a left wing party."

I shït you not. She actually said this.

 

[secretsqirrel]

In the meantime, apparently it's OK to be crap at your job when you start.
Badenoch told the BBC: "You don't want people to be the very best they're going to be on day one."
Let's hope she never needs surgery...

What day is she on now?

I mean, judging be the last few Tory leaders she is well into her stint.

 

[First Aspect]

She's already sounding like shes been told by the gaffa that her contract won't be renewed.