OP
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And what if he was deported, we'd have you lot going on about that as well.
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Bromptonaut
Rohan Man
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And your point is?
OP
OP
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My point is whatever happens a certain type of person always looks to blame someone else rather than the person doing the deed, he came here to seek asylum and was told 'no' so that should have been it, kick him out, buy no he's still here because of the appeal process I assume?
So what went wrong, he was allowed to stay for some reason, or did he just 'disappear' and then decide to blow somebody up?
He should have been detained, processed, and in this case booted out, end of!
Bromptonaut
Rohan Man
- Location
- Bugbrooke, Northants
At the moment we don't know where in the application/appeal process he was.
FWIW I agree that somebody who has exhausted the appeal process, which in terms of its stages is similar to that for those appealing other government decisions, should expect to be sent back.
In some cases of course it's not possible to send them home. The receiving country may not accept them.
In others there may be health or humanitarian grounds to allow them to remain exceptionally even if the strict requirements for asylum are not made out.
OP
OP
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That's alright then.
Bromptonaut
Rohan Man
- Location
- Bugbrooke, Northants
That's alright then.
Real world stuff. Not how the media and politicos want it to be.
glasgowcyclist
Über Member
We don't know why he was still here but it would appear to have nothing to do with the appeal process and may have been a failure on the part of the Home Office to remove him when his application to appeal was rejected in 2017.
See this BBC report: Liverpool bomb: Judges had refused attacker permission to appeal to stay in UK - BBC News
Archie_tect
Active Member
But shep, when you say booted out, where to? Sent on a plane somewhere, put on a ferry?
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Beebo
Veteran
I agree that the government are often damned if they do and damned if they don’t.
But in this case it’s hard to over look the fact that they could have deported him 7 years ago but chose not too.
And despite all their strong words the government only gave themselves to blame.
OP
OP
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If you're so Liberal and understanding how about next door to you?
Where do other failed asylum seekers go?
Archie_tect
Active Member
No problem with next door to me... perhaps he might not have done what he did had that been so... who knows.
I don't know where failed asylum seekers go... some are indefinitely locked up in a detention centre in Middlesbrough.
Bromptonaut
Rohan Man
- Location
- Bugbrooke, Northants
I'd be happy to have a failed asylum seeker next door. Why not? Far more disruption around here by white males on various forms of ASB.
You can google as well as I can about where they go. Let's just say the Home Office is not a paragon of efficiency when it comes to deporting failed asylum seekers.
lazybloke
Regular
Your animosity to others suggests a bias.
I think everyone on the forum will share revulsion at the acts of which you speak.
I wonder if you recognise that such acts are also being committed by "our soldiers" overseas?
So some acts of terrorism are committed by 'terrorist cells' and loners, others are committed by coalitions of western countries.
Depending on your point of view, the planned actions of those western allies could better be described as state-sponsored terrorism.
I'd say conflict is best avoided, not just in international politics but also in nationally, in local communities and in the home.
There's a lot to gain from harmony, and lot to lose from animosity.
Pale Rider
Veteran
Unlike some of your neighbours, if the historical animosity to the religious community in Bugbrooke is anything to go by.
mjr
Active Member
The one that closed down after reporting its own founder to the police for sexual assault but only after his death? And has had 10 people convicted for similar offences? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48447066
Back to Liverpool, if he'd changed his name to Enzo Almeni by deed poll, why are some of the press not using it?