Maureen Lipman: Cancel culture could wipe out comedy

[Fab Foodie]

Really?
I'm sure she and her diaspora would be laughing their socks over a Palestinian/Moslem comic ripping the piss out out of them with jokes based on spiteful Jewish stereotypes. There are plenty good comics out there demonstrating she's wrong and out of touch without resorting to Bernard Manning or Jim Davidson levels of gay wit and repartee....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59703257

 

[qigong chimp]

She'll cheer up if her agent gets her the gig flogging shares in the privatised health service.

 

[Ian H]

The simplest comment I have heard about comedy (possibly from Billy Connolly) was 'always punch up, not down'.

 

[matticus]

Really?
I'm sure she and her diaspora would be laughing their socks over a Palestinian/Moslem comic ripping the piss out out of them with jokes based on spiteful Jewish stereotypes. There are plenty good comics out there demonstrating she's wrong and out of touch without resorting to Bernard Manning or Jim Davidson levels of gay wit and repartee....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59703257

Where do you put David Baddiel in this? A "good comic"?

 

[PK99]

Really?
I'm sure she and her diaspora would be laughing their socks over a Palestinian/Moslem comic ripping the piss out out of them with jokes based on spiteful Jewish stereotypes. There are plenty good comics out there demonstrating she's wrong and out of touch without resorting to Bernard Manning or Jim Davidson levels of gay wit and repartee....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59703257

Interesting that your first instinct is to react on the basis of her race not the substance of her views.

You should reflect on that.

 

[BoldonLad]

Learned two things today:

a) Maureen Lipman is a Comic (?)
b) Maureen Lipman is a Dame (why?)

This forum is exhausting

 

[PK99]

Learned two things today:

a) Maureen Lipman is a Comic (?)
b) Maureen Lipman is a Dame (why?)

This forum is exhausting

She was made a dame in the 2020 Queen's Birthday Honours for services to charity, entertainment and the arts.

 

[Fab Foodie]

Interesting that your first instinct is to react on the basis of her race not the substance of her views.

You should reflect on that.

I did. I used it as an example because the Jewish community are particularly vocal about the slightest slight or potential insult, which makes her opinion strange when openly suggesting that being insulting or offensive to others is acceptable.

 

[PK99]

I did. I used it as an example because the Jewish community are particularly vocal about the slightest slight or potential insult, which makes her opinion strange when openly suggesting that being insulting or offensive to others is acceptable.

But that was not her suggestion.

Your immediate resort to a racial trope is very revealing.

 

[BoldonLad]

The article includes, from Russell Kane (no idea who he is), the following:

"I don't think anyone is saying you can't be offended, nobody is saying that, what we're saying is you can't use hate speech that would prompt a gender-related crime, a sex-related crime or a race-related crime."

shouldn't that read:

"I don't think anyone is saying you can't be offended, nobody is saying that, what we're saying is you can't use speech that would prompt a crime."

 

[Fab Foodie]

But that was not her suggestion.

Your immediate resort to a racial trope is very revealing.

Please elucidate. Is Jewish a race?

 

[MrGrumpy]

Cancel culture , woke , the world is going bonkers .

 

[PK99]

Please elucidate. Is Jewish a race?

The usual dissembling... give your head a shake

 

[matticus]

The article includes, from Russell Kane (no idea who he is), the following:

I do actually know who he is - wow, down with the kids or wot?? - and he's a bright guy, with a lot of interesting stuff to say.

I found this bit from him rather telling:
However, he does think he and his fellow comedians worry about being cancelled for things they might have said in the past which have since become less acceptable. "I signed up for a website called TweetDelete and all my posts that are older than six months have gone. It's a bit of self-protection."

 

[Fab Foodie]

The usual dissembling... give your head a shake

You have accused me of 'resorting to a racist trope', I'm asking for you to explain your accusation.