Nicola Sturgeon Arrested

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SteveO69

New Member
I was looking on the BBC website, which has published the full list, (107 pages) of the items bought. About 65 pages are items from Amazon. Would be interesting (not really) to know were all these items were being delivered. Peter certainly kept the Amazon delivery guy busy. If they were all delivered to the marital home, there would have been an awful lot of recycling, was Nicola struggling to get the lid down on the recycling bin???.
It’s just the volume of items, (often several of the same items), not necessarily the value that make me think she must have been at least aware.
 

icowden

Pharaoh
It’s just the volume of items, (often several of the same items), not necessarily the value that make me think she must have been at least aware.
The duplication does seem weird. Most of it reads like he's buying treats for himself, rather than buying gifts for his wife. Lots of kitchen stuff, lots of gardening stuff and lots of gaming stuff.
 

Xipe Totec

Something nasty in the woodshed
Probably worth remembering the primary residence of the First Minister Of Scotland isn't a semi in Uddingston - it's Bute House in Edinburgh - Scotland's No 10, if you like. Given her well-reported driven, workaholic attitude to her role it's entirely reasonable to think that she didn't go home for days or weeks at a time, never mind knocking off at 5pm to dash back, get Peter's tea on & sort out the recycling.

If their relationship was as distant as some suggest, he may well have had the run of the semi in Uddingston & plenty of opportunity to go about his nefariousness.
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
People seem to think this was over a short period of time. This was over 12 years. Pretty easy to hide if you know what you're doing, which he clearly did.

The bogroll/timing thing is a particularly tinpot accusation.

As I've said, the party, and Sturgeon, are victims here.
 

C R

Legendary Member
People seem to think this was over a short period of time. This was over 12 years. Pretty easy to hide if you know what you're doing, which he clearly did.

The bogroll/timing thing is a particularly tinpot accusation.

As I've said, the party, and Sturgeon, are victims here.

I would tend to agree, but her stonewalling of efforts to monitor the party's accounts doesn't look good.
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
I would tend to agree, but her stonewalling of efforts to monitor the party's accounts doesn't look good.

It doesn't, you're right, but like most of this whole sorry affair, detracts from the real issue.
 

Beebo

Legendary Member
The camper van had been stored for 2 years at his mother’s house and only done 4 miles.
What on earth was it being used for?
Seems like a pointless purchase.
 

AuroraSaab

Pharaoh
She would have been better going down the 'It was a sham relationship by that point, we lived separate lives, we didn't live together, and as such I hadn't a clue what was in that house cos I was never there' route. I think that evokes more sympathy than pretending they were a loving couple but she somehow never pondered over an £80k vehicle on the drive. She must have been miserable living through that marriage for the sake of how it looked. Him too probably. I couldn't do it.
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
If she'd gone down that route she'd have been similarly eviscerated.

Or, probably worse, pitied.
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
Also worth pointing out that the majority of stuff that he bought was found at neither their home, nor SNP headquarters, both of which were raided and searched by police.
 
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First Aspect

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Also worth pointing out that the majority of stuff that he bought was found at neither their home, nor SNP headquarters, both of which were raided and searched by police.
The majority of the value was, though, in plain sight. Including the cars, coffee machines, watches, jewelry, and cars. Plus they were genuinely enough married for her to have been to where the motorhome was.

Anyhow, you are clearly an apologist, and although I have some sympathy for her being oblivious to the actual cost of living in Scotland, her main issue is trying to quash the story.

To my mind at that stage she simply couldn't do anything else because she had engineered a conflict of interest against all advice. Either there was no story, or there was and it had to go away. There was already in 2021 no third option by which she could survive politically.

This isnt really about whether Mrs Jones next door might have noticed Mr Jones spending 50% more than he earns, it is about a national leader and the governing party. I might forgive Mrs Jones' ignorance or wishful thinking, but perhaps.not if she was CEO of the company Mr Jones was stealing from.
 

deptfordmarmoset

Über Member
Although jokes about Sturgeon's blindness seem destined to continue for a while, I'm beginning to think that Murrell may well have declared some kind of financial independence away from her sight. A sort of Paul Squirrel.
 
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AndyRM

Elder Goth
The majority of the value was, though, in plain sight. Including the cars, coffee machines, watches, jewelry, and cars. Plus they were genuinely enough married for her to have been to where the motorhome was.

Anyhow, you are clearly an apologist, and although I have some sympathy for her being oblivious to the actual cost of living in Scotland, her main issue is trying to quash the story.

To my mind at that stage she simply couldn't do anything else because she had engineered a conflict of interest against all advice. Either there was no story, or there was and it had to go away. There was already in 2021 no third option by which she could survive politically.

This isnt really about whether Mrs Jones next door might have noticed Mr Jones spending 50% more than he earns, it is about a national leader and the governing party. I might forgive Mrs Jones' ignorance or wishful thinking, but perhaps.not if she was CEO of the company Mr Jones was stealing from.

I've been called called many things, but "an apologist" isn't one of them, until now.

And I wouldn't say I'm apologising for anything, just posting my take on things.
 

First Aspect

Legendary Member
I've been called called many things, but "an apologist" isn't one of them, until now.

And I wouldn't say I'm apologising for anything, just posting my take on things.
There's a first time form everything. But you are arguing away that she ignored both why a campaign bus was at her mother in laws, and that there was a campaign bus, in her respective capacity as spouse and party leader. Amongst other things.
 
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