Nicola Sturgeon Arrested

[icowden]

There's a first time form everything. But you are arguing away that she ignored both why a campaign bus was at her mother in laws, and that there was a campaign bus, in her respective capacity as spouse and party leader. Amongst other things.

I think the suggestion is that it is credible that she spent very little time at the family home, and even less at the in-laws.

 

[Pblakeney]

In the meantime £5m and an unaffordable house seems to have been forgotten about.
Maybe Murrell’s mistake was not going big enough.
And that’s before we get to Michelle Mone.

 

[briantrumpet]

At least the thread police have no need to reprimand posters in this thread for straying off topic.

 

[Shortfall]

The majority of the value was, though, in plain sight. Including the cars, coffee machines, watches, jewelry, and cars. Plus they were genuinely enough married for her to have been to where the motorhome was.

Anyhow, you are clearly an apologist, and although I have some sympathy for her being oblivious to the actual cost of living in Scotland, her main issue is trying to quash the story.

To my mind at that stage she simply couldn't do anything else because she had engineered a conflict of interest against all advice. Either there was no story, or there was and it had to go away. There was already in 2021 no third option by which she could survive politically.

This isnt really about whether Mrs Jones next door might have noticed Mr Jones spending 50% more than he earns, it is about a national leader and the governing party. I might forgive Mrs Jones' ignorance or wishful thinking, but perhaps.not if she was CEO of the company Mr Jones was stealing from.

Absolutely this. Rumours about both of their sexualities have been around for years but if they chose to have a marriage of convenience for the sake of appearances and because it suited both of their political careers then they have to live with the fallout when their less than conventional marital arrangements were inevitably exposed. People might have more sympathy for her if she hadn't tried to bury the story and made it difficult for the staff who noticed that something was seriously wrong with the accounts. Similarly we might be less critical of the SNP now if Swinney would agree to a full independent enquiry about the whole sordid affair but they appear to want to close ranks instead and say "Nothing to see here".

 

[Pblakeney]

Similarly we might be less critical of the SNP now if Swinney would agree to a full independent enquiry about the whole sordid affair but they appear to want to close ranks instead and say "Nothing to see here".

Two years of police investigations not enough? Not specific to this case but I'm fed up of public finances being wasted on enquiries when nothing of any significance comes from them. A complete waste of money.

 

[Shortfall]

Two years of police investigations not enough? Not specific to this case but I'm fed up of public finances being wasted on enquiries when nothing of any significance comes from them. A complete waste of money.

I know what you mean (why do public enquiries cost so much anyway? ). However if I was Swinney and I wanted to demonstrate that everything was all above board and that these were the actions of one rogue employee who had conned everyone then I would set up an independent enquiry. I think we all know why he isn't doing this though and it isn't to avoid the cost (well all of us bar a few die hard supporters).

 

[First Aspect]

Two years of police investigations not enough? Not specific to this case but I'm fed up of public finances being wasted on enquiries when nothing of any significance comes from them. A complete waste of money.

It would be looking at a different legal standard I think, but you have to wonder how much more proof is needed that the SNP talks a good talk, is incompetent, and tries everything possible to hide or shout down the evidence of incompetence.

But my suspicion is that people calling for this hope that more will be found, and want to keep this in the news.

I also suspect it is a rocks and glass houses situation, below a certain level.

 

[Pblakeney]

But my suspicion is that people calling for this hope that more will be found, and want to keep this in the news.

This is my assessment.

 

[Xipe Totec]

In the meantime £5m and an unaffordable house seems to have been forgotten about.
Maybe Murrell’s mistake was not being an openly racist extreme-right English nationalist

Ftfy.

 

[AndyRM]

Two years of police investigations not enough? Not specific to this case but I'm fed up of public finances being wasted on enquiries when nothing of any significance comes from them. A complete waste of money.

4 years. Branchtree started in 2021.

 

[icowden]

In the meantime £5m and an unaffordable house seems to have been forgotten about.
Maybe Murrell’s mistake was not going big enough.

Classic leftist / nationalist error.

All the gammons know you have to go big or go home.

 

[icowden]

Two years of police investigations not enough? Not specific to this case but I'm fed up of public finances being wasted on enquiries when nothing of any significance comes from them. A complete waste of money.

The clever bit is that the Government announces an enquiry, it runs for 4 or 5 years - just long enough to complete under the next Government. People complain that nothing has been done, so the new Government announce that a new enquiry is needed because the old one is too old - and so forth. Avoids the issue, avoids the question and just passes it down the line until ITV make a drama about it.

 

[BoldonLad]

The clever bit is that the Government announces an enquiry, it runs for 4 or 5 years - just long enough to complete under the next Government. People complain that nothing has been done, so the new Government announce that a new enquiry is needed because the old one is too old - and so forth. Avoids the issue, avoids the question and just passes it down the line until ITV make a drama about it.

You missed out that it provides "well paid jobs for the boys, and girls" 😂

 

[Psamathe]

I think the suggestion is that it is credible that she spent very little time at the family home, and even less at the in-laws.

If I visited some family member occasionally and noticed a massive motorhome sitting on their driveway even on 1st visit I'd be "I see you've got a big motorhome, enyoying it ?..."

Particularly as I understand increasingly few people happen to have the C!/D1 driving licence category (I believe they stopped being "just included" in 1977 and when you renew age 70 you lose those categories (unless you have a GP medical sign-ff, optician sign-off every 3 years). I understand most will need to add those categories to their driving licence which is not just asking.

 

[icowden]

If I visited some family member occasionally and noticed a massive motorhome sitting on their driveway even on 1st visit I'd be "I see you've got a big motorhome, enyoying it ?..."

"Oh no dear - your Paul bought that. I think its for use as an Election Bus."
"Paul - why do we have a motorhome"
"Oh - The party thought it would be useful as a battle bus for the next round of elections - mum just agreed to have it on her driveway as it's safer that way"

Particularly as I understand increasingly few people happen to have the C!/D1 driving licence category (I believe they stopped being "just included" in 1977 and when you renew age 70 you lose those categories (unless you have a GP medical sign-ff, optician sign-off every 3 years). I understand most will need to add those categories to their driving licence which is not just asking.

Murrell is 59. He didn't buy it for his in laws. It's owned by the SNP as far as Nicola is aware because her husband is lying to her, and she's probably not paying much attention.