Nicola Sturgeon Arrested

[Pblakeney]

You're assuming it all went into the joint bank account.
E & I have a joint account into which we pay as necessary, but otherwise we have separate financial arrangements and don't usually discuss these with each other. If E was embezzling someone I probably wouldn't know anything about it.

Myself and my wife don't even have a shared account. What we do with our money is our business, as long as the bills are paid.
I don't have a clue how much she has, and I don't question her purchases. And the reverse for her. I imagine there was a similar setup for them.

 

[Shortfall]

With this sort of thing I like to ask myself "Would they extend the same benefit of doubt to somebody they don't like?" Maybe someone like Nigel Farage? Probably not I think.

 

[Pblakeney]

With this sort of thing I like to ask myself "Would they extend the same benefit of doubt to somebody they don't like?" Maybe someone like Nigel Farage? Probably not I think.

Given the outcome, I'm curious. Who is "they"? And who is "somebody they don't like"?
As far as I can see Murrell and Sturgeon have been put through the wringer far more intensively than Farage. As they and Farage deserve.

 

[Xipe Totec]

And I'd ask once again - if STUUUUURRRRGEOOOONNN!!! so blatantly had her fingers in the till up to her armpits the way everybody who despises her is utterly convinced she obviously did - then how exactly did she manage to get away with it?

 

[Pross]

Its a fair point though. I think I calculated how much more disposable income it represented over the period he was at it, and it was quite high in % terms. Higher than you could reasonably turn a blind eye to. Let me do it again...

He averaged about £35k embezzlement over a 13 year period. Which is the equivalent of near enough £70k extra income before tax. Their combined incomes over that period were probably less than £200k.

So would YOU notice an extra 30%-£40% of your income? And would YOU expect your leader and the person who sets your taxes to be in touch with reality enough to know what lifestyle a certain income would allow someone? Would YOU expect the person ultimately responsible for the country's finances to be able to keep track of their own?

She's either an idiot or she knew, neither of which are good, which is why she resigned.

To be honest, I regularly see people who have camper vans and brand new cars that cost over £50k and wonder how they afford them. Even more so having recently taken a look at getting a (small) camper vans and decided there was no way we could afford it at £70k plus even on finance. It’s one of life’s mysteries how some people afford all the stuff they ‘own’.

 

[TailWindHome]

Man conceals wrongdoing from wife isn't outlandish though

 

[First Aspect]

Man conceals wrongdoing from wife isn't outlandish though

I think political party loses 100% of its donations without noticing is newsworthy, when that party normally just blames someone else (oh, look, that's what it is doing now). Wife of treasurer definitively saying there's nothing wrong and, worse still basically muzzling any discussion on the subject, that's newsworthy also, when that person leads a party that pretends to be open and capable of creating a new country.

So is the level of personal naivety, honestly, for someone in that position.

 

[icowden]

Myself and my wife don't even have a shared account. What we do with our money is our business, as long as the bills are paid.
I don't have a clue how much she has, and I don't question her purchases. And the reverse for her. I imagine there was a similar setup for them.

Same here. Although whether that was the case for Sturgeon *before* Murrell was arrested remains to be seen. That said, I find it a little difficult to believe that she would spend so many years as a very prominent leader of the SNP and Scottish Parliament knowing that her husband was embezzling from the party coffers.

 

[BoldonLad]

You're assuming it all went into the joint bank account.
E & I have a joint account into which we pay as necessary, but otherwise we have separate financial arrangements and don't usually discuss these with each other. If E was embezzling someone I probably wouldn't know anything about it.

I wasn't assuming any such thing. We always operated separate bank accounts. But, I think I might notice if my wife began spending (say) £50,000pa more than my rough idea of her income.

 

[BoldonLad]

Myself and my wife don't even have a shared account. What we do with our money is our business, as long as the bills are paid.
I don't have a clue how much she has, and I don't question her purchases. And the reverse for her. I imagine there was a similar setup for them.

It is not a case of "questioning", it is a case of being alive and "noticing".

 

[Pblakeney]

It is not a case of "questioning", it is a case of being alive and "noticing".

Not really. We went to being a one car household as one car always seemed to be just sitting on the drive. We have now noticed that it is sometimes inconvenient. If I returned home today to see a new car on the drive I wouldn't be surprised, nor question it. I'd notice it though. 😉

 

[First Aspect]

I must say I am surprised how many people have such completely independent and opaque finances, from their spouse. Don't any of you discuss large purchases before you make them, you know on the off hance they affect the other person?

 

[AndyRM]

A quote from Ms Sturgeon:

"In respect of any items I was aware of Peter having purchased, I had no reason to doubt that he had used his own money.

"We were both earning high salaries and, due to the responsibilities of my job, rarely socialised or went on holidays.

"We had separate bank accounts and I had no access to his financial records."

As I said before, she's a victim here, as is the party. Swindled and deceived by an absolute chancer, who was unfortunately intelligent enough to cover his tracks.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

I must say I am surprised how many people have such completely independent and opaque finances, from their spouse. Don't any of you discuss large purchases before you make them, you know on the off hance they affect the other person?

Him: Oh by the way dear, I bought a new Jag today. Oh, and a campervan.
Her: That's nice dear, what shall we have for tea?
Easy enough to pass over the £2600 salt and pepper, because before yesterday it didn't cross my mind that sort of thing existed.

 

[Dorset Boy]

The party and it's members / donors are the victims.
Sturgeon is either blind, or stupid, but not a victim, though she is caught up in the mess.