Population decline

[CXRAndy]

You heard it hear first. CXR thinks the elderly should never retire.

Doesn't know the difference between 'less' and 'fewer'.

I'm not saying that, I'm saying there are many able bodied retirees , who would be more than pleased to continue working beyond retirement age.

 

[multitool]

What about those who can't. They'll just receive a lower pension will they, pushing them into poverty. Whilst those that can will be compelled to work forever to avoid poverty.

You heard it here first, folks. CXR's genius solution. What next, I wonder? Achieving world peace by telling people not to fight?

 

[bobzmyunkle]

And we're mostly too old to breed.

Your country needs you

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...trialisation-of-britain-and-higher-birthrates

 

[CXRAndy]

What about those who can't. They'll just receive a lower pension will they, pushing them into poverty. Whilst those that can will be compelled to work forever to avoid poverty.

You heard it here first, folks. CXR's genius solution. What next, I wonder? Achieving world peace by telling people not to fight?

Folk retire with different levels of pensions
Typical leftie, can't do attitude 😀

 

[multitool]

Folk retire with different levels of pensions

Oh really? Do they?!?

 

[CXRAndy]

Oh really? Do they?!?

Yes, state pension, private pension. Some save more for longer.

You should strive for more in life 👍

 

[multitool]

I was being sarcastic, you absolute melt

 

[CXRAndy]

I was being sarcastic, you absolute melt

Yes of course 😁

 

[Ian H]

I was being sarcastic, you absolute melt

You're being a little too subtle, old chap - actually, any subtlety is a waste of time, except for the amusement when he fails to get it.
But the tedious little sh!t is still a tedious little sh!t.

 

[multitool]

Anyway, this little interval exploring CXR's credulousness is detracting from the topic in hand.

The point being that the dependency ratio is such that without a massive increase in the birth rate, and/or immigration western European nations have a bleak future. Pensions are just the half of it.

Of course, the white supremacist far-right, embodied in the States by Trump, is running an anti-immigration line in tandem with denying women's reproductive rights.

 

[multitool]

You're being a little too subtle, old chap - actually, any subtlety is a waste of time, except for the amusement when he fails to get it.
But the tedious little sh!t is still a tedious little sh!t.

You can kind of see why he goes for the meme-splatter tactic. It's because he just can't survive in an actual conversation.

 

[multitool]

Of course, the white supremacist far-right, embodied in the States by Trump, is running an anti-immigration line in tandem with denying women's reproductive rights.

I hesitated to include Farage in this, but I see now that he's jumping on the white suprem band wagon

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...trialisation-of-britain-and-higher-birthrates

 

[Psamathe]

The point being that the dependency ratio is such that without a massive increase in the birth rate, and/or immigration western European nations have a bleak future. Pensions are just the half of it.

I suspect any answer is actually many answers. Many changes with a cumulative benefit. eg improve diet, address obesity and high alcohol consumption means lower demands on NHS and care services. Improve Active travel (health & independence benefits for longer). Better health across the nation (for working age people) would mean fewer not working for health reasons, lower benefits system demands reducing the benefits bill, etc.

We (the west) need to sort out a sensible visa system as it's going to be a growing issue as climate change causes more crop failures, floods, droughts and makes increasing areas uninhabitable. Government should be recognising that and stop its perpetual ambiguous anti-foreigners coming rhetoric, failing to properly distinguish between refugees and immigrants and failing to highlight the benefits from both groups.

Ian

 

[Beebo]

I hesitated to include Farage in this, but I see now that he's jumping on the white suprem band wagon

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...trialisation-of-britain-and-higher-birthrates

I don’t trust anyone who argues for a Judeo Christian culture.

It’s bollox. We are a secular society. How many of us identify as Christian?

And modern life is too expensive to enable people to have loads of children. We would just end up with loads of poverty stricken kids and the likes of Farage is hardly going to advocate for welfare increases to support them.

 

[multitool]

Why do we need to be beholden to a middle-eastern religion anyway?

It's not exactly very British.