Population decline

[BoldonLad]

Let older people continue to work to supplement their pension. They pay a little extra tax, helps the system

There are still many jobs older folk can do

Keeps them fitter, engaged with society. Less old age medical interventions


Sets an example for the young, you're never too old.

Needs radical change

There is no law that says “older people” cannot work after state pension age, and, many do so. Have you been in B&Q recently? The checkouts of the Tesco Store local to my son, are staffed almost exclusively by pensioners. I feel like a youngster every time I go in there.

 

[AuroraSaab]

I think it was a B and Q deliberate policy to recruit from all age groups and not dismiss applications from older staff. About 30% are over 50 I think. Works well in that kind of store I reckon. Probably a much lower staff turnover. As older staff are less likely to move on to other jobs that probably accounts for the aging supermarket staff too. They maybe started in their 40's or 50's.

It's good that there are employers still willing to give opportunities to older staff. When AI puts all the under 40's out of a job they'll be queuing up to mix paint at B and Q.

 

[CXRAndy]

There is no law that says “older people” cannot work after state pension age, and, many do so. Have you been in B&Q recently? The checkouts of the Tesco Store local to my son, are staffed almost exclusively by pensioners. I feel like a youngster every time I go in there.

Yes certain companies get it.

You get a reliable, conscious, experienced staff member

 

[icowden]

You get a reliable, conscious, experienced staff member

Who is easily replaceable because they are on a zero hours shift only contract and don't have a permanent salaried position.

 

[CXRAndy]

Who is easily replaceable because they are on a zero hours shift only contract and don't have a permanent salaried position.

Always negativity

I would think older folk would like the flexibility of working hours.

My sister took a zero hour employment. She worked the hours she wanted, but was always asked if she wanted more hours.

 

[C R]

Always negativity

I would think older folk would like the flexibility of working hours.

My sister took a zero hour employment. She worked the hours she wanted, but was always asked if she wanted more hours.

Zero hour contracts work well for people who want to do something between golf rounds or lunches with the girls so that they don't get bored. For people who need to work for a living zero hour contracts don't work that well.

 

[the snail]

I think it was a B and Q deliberate policy to recruit from all age groups and not dismiss applications from older staff. ...

Unless they can objectively demonstrate otherwise, it would be illegal to discriminate on age grounds.

 

[CXRAndy]

Zero hour contracts work well for people who want to do something between golf rounds or lunches with the girls so that they don't get bored. For people who need to work for a living zero hour contracts don't work that well.

My sister never played golf or did lunches with the girls. She was an older woman contemplating retirement, but got a job in a craft selling outlet. She worked part-time. But soon found she could work full-time if she wanted. She did do extra hours when she felt like it

 

[The Crofted Crest]

selling outlet

Quick translation for lefty whingers: a "shop".

 

[bobzmyunkle]

Quick translation for lefty whingers: a "shop".

Tat shop

 

[CXRAndy]

Quick translation for lefty whingers: a "shop".

Tat shop

Hobbycraft is a national company with many outlets around the country

I suppose M&S is a shop too

 

[BoldonLad]

Who is easily replaceable because they are on a zero hours shift only contract and don't have a permanent salaried position.

Perhaps, that is a situation where a zero hours contract suits the employee AND employer. My brother (retired firefighter) has been on a zero hours deal at a National Undertaker for 10 years, suits him just fine. I did similar (although, not at an undertakers).

 

[BoldonLad]

Zero hour contracts work well for people who want to do something between golf rounds or lunches with the girls so that they don't get bored. For people who need to work for a living zero hour contracts don't work that well.

True. Flexible opportunity. Horses for courses and all that.

 

[AuroraSaab]

Unless they can objectively demonstrate otherwise, it would be illegal to discriminate on age grounds.

Of course it is, though it's done all the time. I think it's more that B and Q value experience in their stores more than other employers might.

They did initially discriminate against under 50's (illegal now of course). Anyway, it brought more profit, lower absenteeism, lower staff turnover. Would be interesting to see if those figures remain as the 50 to 60's staff go into their 70's though.

https://www.som.org.uk/bq-and-ageing-workers

 

[CXRAndy]

My oldest sister is in her 70s, still working 5 days a week, full time employment

With her volunteer work too, she is doing 50-60 hours per week






She is a US citizen